Off Topic Cricket World Cup

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City1904 said:
Concentration.

I've been lucky enough to play a three day game this year, and having never played one before god it was a shock. It's not just the mental aspect when batting, its standing in a field for 90 overs concentrating, and then going out to bat. I know that hasn't been an issue in this match but its a huge difference. Also in a match of 500 overs, the price of a wicket is far greater. You have 40 wickets in a match over 500 overs, in ODIs it is 20 wickets for 100 overs, so the loss of a wicket has far lesser value in the one day game. I am not going to profess to be an expert, but those are the basic differences. Of course there is then the ball which is completely different and still swings after about 50 overs.

I am unsure what fault Bayliss has in this personally. He was brought in to win the World Cup and he has done that, the system is very much at fault for our lack of top three batsman being developed, which is not the fault of Bayliss as he had no impact on that. I appreciate he has being involved in the decision to move Bairstow and give Root the captaincy, but when there was very few other candidates for it I understand why he gave it to him. Personally I love test cricket, but I fully understand the motives behind Strauss changing the system to make ODI cricket far more important it, without that we would not have won the World Cup there is absolutely no doubt about that. Have we gone too much one way? Yes we probably have, but if it means we have won a World Cup and inspired a whole new generation of cricketers it is worth it in m eyes.

FYI - I had an absolute shocking game in the three day game I played.
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Who was the three day game for/against?
 
RichardG said:
This is as much Bayliss and Strauss's legacy as the World Cup win. We are going backwards as a test side. Under Bayliss, pretty much the only positives in the TEst team are things he inherited - Root's batting (sometimes) and the bowling of Anderson. Even then, we've messed about with the few world-class batting options we've had. Joe Root was as good a Test batsman as there was in the world batting at four or five and not captaining. When he had captained Yorkshire he'd looked useless. So what do we do? Pressure him to bat at three because of some moronic Aussie saying (that is bull**** anyway) and hand him the captaincy. The result? An average Test batsman. Bairstow looks fantastic at seven, and his keeping improves no end. So let's move him up and down the order and **** up another bright career. All the while we're no nearer unearthing a decent candidate for the top three than we were six years ago, and we've introduced a bizarre situation where we've got a wicketkeeper not wicketkeeping but more often than not batting at seven. He's also undroppable, even though he has one Test century in 31 Tests.

I've been banging this drum for a little while now, but we should take the captaincy off Root and take the Test job off Bayliss. Bayliss leaving resolves part of that, but there's no chance of it happening before the Ashes. As great as the World Cup win was - and it is up there with anything I've been in British sport - I don't think it needed to come at the expense of our Test performances. We eke out the odd impressive win against out-of-sorts opponents such as Sri Lanka but overall I think this is one of the worst Test sides I've seen England put out. Maybe only the late 80s vintage is worse (our poorness in the 1990s is exaggerated and, it should be remembered, Test cricket was possibly at its strongest ever in that decade). What annoys me is that this morning wasn't that surprising. England feebly falling apart to good bowling? That's just what we do. And we'll continue to do as long as we marginalise the County Championship and focus on white ball stuff.
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Pretty much spot on Richard, one problem is that India has fallen in love with the shorter version of the game, and there seems to be only the English and Aussies crowds who really embrace the test form of the game now.
 
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Olly Stone out first ball of the day! I know he's a number 11 but it just adds more comedy to what's been a comical test match!
 
Good bowling display this morning in bowler friendly conditions doesn't for me hide the problems we obviously have .. our top 3 of a couple of years back have yet to be replaced .. I'm sure once Roy adjusts he will take one of the spots but Burns and Denley are hopelessly out of touch. Alli hasn't produced a decent innings for an age so will they include him just for a spin option or turn to Rashid .. the man the confounded Kholi. I think the pace attack will pick itself tbh dependent on conditions .. my fear is the batting currently looks weak .. with very little options to choose from who take the eye and who hasn't been given a chance already.
 
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