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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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  2. Get out

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  1. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    bound to be a who votes tory one somewhere
     
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  2. Sooperhoop

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    And how many Labour MPs send their offspring to private schools? Do as I say not as I do...

     
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  3. Willhoops

    Willhoops Well-Known Member

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  4. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Is he a child rapist now
    It's a long list of things to hate him for
     
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    No kiwi, he only eats children
     
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  6. Woodyhoopleson

    Woodyhoopleson Well-Known Member

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    He's implicated in the Epstein case, just like Clinton and one of the runner bean's sons, not saville's mate, the other one. I'm sure the media will focus on them soon.
     
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    Willhoops Well-Known Member

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    Nope... point well and truly missed never mind
     
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  9. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    so
    pretending to be stroller

    what was your point

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  10. Willhoops

    Willhoops Well-Known Member

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    Nobody is suggesting he’s abused children but is connected to those who have done some pretty ****ing horrific things and to distract from that he’s more than that he’s happy enough to make completely racist comments, as it seems that’s fine. :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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  11. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    from the little ive seen of it bill clinton is the highest profile name mentioned
    cant see trump trying to save his back
     
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  13. Woodyhoopleson

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    There have been links made between Trump and Epstein as well.
     
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  14. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Remote Border checks can work even if there is a no-deal Brexit - Hogan
    But DUP objections must be overcome to deliver ‘necessary protocols’
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    Growing concerns: Communities in the North fear the consequences of Brexit and a hard Border. Photo: AFP/Getty Images
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    A way can be found to avoid animal and food checks at the Border - even in the case of a no-deal Brexit, Ireland's EU Commissioner Phil Hogan has said.
    Mr Hogan moved to allay reports of a growing view among Brussels officials that so-called phytosanitary checks, especially for live animals, cannot be avoided at the Border if the UK quits the EU without a deal on October 31.
    Amid ongoing uncertainty in Britain, there is a growing acceptance that the risk of a no-deal Brexit has increased, with a result in the UK Conservative Party leadership election due next week.
    But Mr Hogan also held out the hope that a new British prime minister - be it Boris Johnson or Jeremy Hunt - could deliver "a good Brexit outcome" this autumn. He insisted a no-deal result was far from inevitable.
    The former Fine Gael minister has been nominated by the Government for a second five-year term in the EU policy-guiding Commission, but will continue as Agriculture Commissioner until November 1.
    He said the entire island of Ireland was already treated as one entity for animal and public health issues.
    "We'd like to continue that arrangement and I don't see any difficulty between the UK and the EU in respect of this," Mr Hogan told the Irish Independent. He said the UK has published 16 pieces of legislation, and the EU 19 draft laws, to allow a smooth transition dealing with Border issues on a "pragmatic basis".
    Mr Hogan said animal health issues on the island of Ireland were the joint responsibility of the Dublin authorities and the Northern Ireland Office which reported to the EU in Brussels.
    "Even in a no-deal situation, we can put in place the necessary protocols so this would not be a problem," he said.
    He said that 55pc of products coming from Britain to Northern Ireland went via Dublin Port where they could be checked. There could also be a system of checks at point of origin and at the point of destination.
    The Commissioner said that the EU and UK could also enter into negotiations on protocols allowing the UK authorities, as a non-EU member, to conduct checks on behalf of the Brussels authorities. Finally, the EU could itself do spot checks to reinforce control systems.
    "These are all proposals which are on the table. But for political reasons - particularly due to objections from the Democratic Unionist Party - they have not been treated as reasonable and pragmatic," Mr Hogan added.
    This is a reference to the DUP's insistence that there can be no special treatment for the North as Brexit happens.
    The Irish Commissioner dismissed suggestions that Dublin should "make a gesture to the UK on the backstop" to help defuse the stand-off.
    "This suggestion is motivated by a diplomatic offensive by the UK in recent times. But there will be no change in the Withdrawal Agreement or the backstop," he insisted.
    The EU Commissioner, who last week met with UK Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay, said the UK Conservative leadership contest had not made prospects of a Brexit solution more difficult.
    He noted that neither Mr Johnson nor Mr Hunt "gave any hostages" that would harm resumed talks on a solution this autumn.
    "I detect a willingness on behalf of the UK to make another big effort in the autumn to find a solution," Mr Hogan said.
    Many EU reassurances were possible for the UK - but they would have to be in the accompanying declaration on negotiations for a future relationship as the withdrawal deal was fixed.
    Mr Hogan repeated his trenchant defence of the draft EU-Mercosur deal which has enraged farmer unions. He said he understood beef farmers' fears but there would be no undercutting of EU animal and environmental standards for South American beef imports and this would be reflected in final legal texts.
    He also said there would be a €1bn fund to support farmers hit by trade distortions. "This is the first trade deal to have an accompanying compensation fund - many farmers do not appreciate this," he said.
    "I understand the concerns of beef farmers, but they should not be frightened by misinformation and some irresponsible commentary about what the deal contains. Farmers should look carefully at all the strict conditions which are there to protect them."
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    Prince Andrew seems to have enjoyed Epstein’s company, even after he had plea bargained on the original set of child procurement charges.

    Let’s hope proper, transparent justice takes its course for a change, no matter how powerful, influential and protected those involved are. I won’t be holding my breath.
     
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    France fears London will be financial powerhouse post-Brexit as EU red tape squeezes Paris
    FRANCE’S top financial regulator is calling for the EU’s rigid structures to be reformed as Britain prepare for Brexit.
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    Robert Ophèle, chairman of the Financial Markets Regulator (AMF), is demanding the restrictive EU rules change as they currently leave little room for national authorities to adapt to changing environments, such as Brexit. In EU law making, the rules for the single market are set out by politicians in “Level 1” and are made workable by officials but once they are in Level 1, they are inflexible.Mr Ophèle said: “As soon as you put something in Level 1, it’s very difficult to change anything, “Even without Brexit, we should have [more flexibility].

    “But with Brexit, it’s obvious that we should.”
    Andrew Bailey, the head of the UK’s Financial Conduct Authority, said Britain favoured regulation with fewer “detailed rules that can become set in stone” after Brexit.
    Robert Ophèle used this point in his argument, telling the Financial Times: “To some extent it’s clear and they are right, that being so rule-based . . . is something which is detrimental to the efficiency, the agility, the capability of the European regulation to give the appropriate answer to any challenge.”
    Referring to Britain’s strong financial position, Mr Ophèle said: “If the FCA was a leading force in the regulatory environment, it’s because London was  connected with the real market, and listening to them and understanding how it works.”
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    The offices of banks, including JPMorgan Chase, Citi, HSBC, and other financial institutions (Image: GETTY)
    In a bid for more flexibility, Mr Ophèle suggested European authorities should be allowed to issue “no action letters”.
    These are widely used in the US to temporarily waive the application of rules in certain situations.
    Mr Ophèle also said Brexit meant that it would be “essential to review existing third-country regimes”.
    The UK will become a so-called third country after Brexit and will no longer be able to use the EU system of passports that allows UK managers to sell financial products and services across the whole of Europe.
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  17. Staines R's

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    Don’t tell you know who ;)
     
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  18. rangercol

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    Lol.
     
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    Would of thought that would stop people in their tracks to at last understand why it will be better to sell from Europe into the U.K.

    The banks will go where it’s best for them and it won’t affect you and me but it will effect the uk’s Economy without doubt

    Never mind we have plenty of plans on how we will earn money nationally after Brexit

    Britain hopes to lead the way in so many potential ways.... where exactly? The truth is we are now just a big shop nothing more

    Nationwide currently positioning themselves very nicely behind the scenes ... won’t say anymore
     
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    Paris is not France same as London is not England

    Anyone even thinking of suggesting that the city of London regarding finance is something to be proud of is mad imo. Its just currently a place and each and everyone of the banking and insurance brands will do exactly what’s best for them and them only

    The U.K. is still only a golden honey pot because of the amount of debt per head combine that with a culture of mass consumerism and the true reality is that it’s all on a knife edge

    Would be interesting to know exactly what the posters on here living costs are? and also how much exactly do they owe ... including of course your mortgages

    When the Euro overtakes the pound get ready to feel the pain
     
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