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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Steelmonkey

    Steelmonkey Well-Known Member

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    Braindead morons, that's who. Should be ****in shot.....then made to wait for an ambulance
     
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  2. Staines R's

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    No mate, we were in the surrounding area but it just came over the MDT to avoid a certain road......****ing disgusting.
     
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  3. Staines R's

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    These arguments have been done to death from the likes of you and me on here. It’s an embarrassment that a party that is supposedly for the working class of this country, now decide to pander to and feel aligned to a ‘globalist’ organisation that have ****ed over the workers and poor of countries like Greece, Spain and Italy.
    As I said, at least it makes my choice of party to support a whole lot easier.
     
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  4. easthertsr

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    It's a simple question if you work in a factory in Darlington how does leaving the EU help me and my family?
     
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  5. Staines R's

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    Simple answer....free movement of foreign workers ends, which means the bosses in this country cannot exploit those foreign workers and pay **** wages to them, thus leading the worker in Darlington (to quote your example) to be paid a fair wage as the wage structure isn’t being brought down.
    This also has the advantage to the foreign workers country of origin, as their work force isn’t decimated by people leaving.

    Of course if you are a banker in Islington there is no advantage in leaving whatsoever.

    Is that simple enough an answer ?
    Sorry if not but I’ve only had 2 hours sleep after my night shift .
     
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  6. kiwiqpr

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    apparently people have started boycotting hecks sausages because boris visited
    a downturn in business should help those workers

    hope he dosent visit darlington
     
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  7. GoldhawkRoad

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    It beggar's belief. Personally, I'd like to capture one alive (!) and make him explain why he was doing it and how he'd feel if the ambulance was coming to save his granny
     
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  8. GoldhawkRoad

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    I'll now buy only Heck
     
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  9. GoldhawkRoad

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    Did Ireland know for certain that it would gain economically from leaving the UK? Almost certainly not, so do you think they should have stayed?
     
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  10. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    i hope its all made in the uk
     
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  11. sb_73

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    ?? What the ****?? Ireland ‘left’ the UK in a way that meant there was zero difference in trade and movement of people and capital. Also the small matter of close on a thousand years of occupation and periodic slaughter from Normans, a variety of royal British houses, Cromwell’s republicans, just about any body who could be arsed, plus the diaspora resulting from avoidable starvation 150 years ago, and explicit and huge repression of the majority of the Irish population on religious grounds.

    I seriously cannot believe that you compare Brexit to Ireland fighting to gain independence from the English. Unless you count William the Conquerer, William of Orange and the Hanoverians as authentic precursors of the EU.
     
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    There is no comparison. Totally correct mate
     
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  13. easthertsr

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    But as my company has free access to the biggest free market in the world as of now it has no problems in selling it's produce tariff free to anywhere in the EU. If we leave on Halloween with or without a deal the inherent ability of my company to employ anybody wherever they are from is questionable. Do you really think companies will say right we have no foreigners working for us now so we will give all the Brits a pay rise? I'm trying to think of a better description of naivety but I can't think of one! So get back to my original question, how does this help that the economic projections that the whole country will be worse off help anyone?
     
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  14. Stroller

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    A stunningly ignorant comparison.
     
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  15. GoldhawkRoad

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    They are both about independence. Ireland gaining its. The UK regaining its. In both cases, this comes before money. You Remainers have a blind spot to it
     
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  16. Staines R's

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    As requested I answered your ‘simple question’, if you want to be condescending to the reply (and come up with another) then that’s your choice.
    Yes, local workers would be paid a higher wage because there would not be the influx of foreign workers to be exploited.....its quite simple really.
    If you want to call it naivety then up to you....many on the left call it simple fact.

    I assume you’re not a worker from Darlington
     
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  17. Turkish" Premier" Hoops

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    Spot on, but it doesn’t necessarily make me a Tory though does it :emoticon-0103-cool: <whistle>
     
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  18. sb_73

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    Are you pissed?
     
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  19. GoldhawkRoad

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    What part of independence do you struggle to understand? It isn't all about money for many Leavers. It must come as a shock to you.
     
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  20. rangercol

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    Do you think you could be just a bit more patronising?
     
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