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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spurlock, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. deedub93

    deedub93 Well-Known Member

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    Lampard and OGS joint favourites for first sacking, 6:1

     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    There's something quite sad about the Chavs trying to get a hashtag trending for Frank Lampard returning as manager, yet the top nine tweets using the hashtag are all from the club's Twitter
     
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  3. humanbeingincroydon

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  4. The RDBD

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    Swiss Ramble does some forensics on the Goons ...



    Looking good, while Spurs stay in the CL and they are kept out.
     
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  5. Being in the CL is so important
     
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  6. The RDBD

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    There seem to be three tiers of club in the current top 6 :

    1. Recent empires
    2. Sugga Daddy FCs
    3. Those that try to operate as a "going concern"

    #1 are the Poool and Man Utd.
    As a result of having had an empire with a long reign, they have built a large
    enough supporter base such that the "bottom line" revenues will always
    be decent regardless of the current on-pitch fortunes.

    #2 : financially doped so badly that nothing really effects them.

    #3 are Spurs and the Goons.
    Continually being at the top end of the PL and participating in the CL is
    the only way to bring money in (earnings, supporters, sponsors) .
    Managing the transfer/wage bills is also a full-time job.
     
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  7. I’m proud of our club.

    It’s become fashionable for the fans of embittered rivals to slate Levy as being in it ti line his own pockets, but that couldn’t be further from the truth.
     
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  8. humanbeingincroydon

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    This one will hurt the Woolwich Twitter trolls...
     
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  9. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    Even if true, I can live with that.
    There is no short term financial reward in taking over a PL football club.
    More so for Spurs from the mediocrity of the Sugar era.

    ENIC are still some way off filling their pockets, and at best it will have
    taken them 20 odd years to do so.
     
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  10. humanbeingincroydon

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    Let me get this straight: Isco is trending on Twitter...because a large number of Man Utd fans are tweeting their assumptions that Los Ladrones will include him in any deal for Pogba?

    Surely the best solution is they find out Pogba's already snuck off to Madrid and had his medical, and the deal they're effectively forced to sign due to the minor case of kidnapping involves them getting a season-long loan for a midfielder they're being loaned for the sole purpose of trying to get their value up, hence the lack of any option to make the loan permanent?

    Can't think how I thought of a scenario that specific...
     
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  11. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    CL qualification is vital to all clubs.
    If Utd keep failing, past glories will not be a guarantee of future income.
    The rest are catching up because they are more successful
    Spurs have performed miracles over the past few years in being successful without spending big on transfers and wages. Good luck with maintaining that approach.
     
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  12. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    You mean big money buys like...

    Paul Pogba...£130 million;
    lukaku...........£90 million;
    Sanchez........£500k per week?

    If so, I think we'll stick to buying the likes of bargain bucket purchases, like Ndombele and leave the really big money splashes to United. Good luck with maintaining that approach. <laugh>
     
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    I don't advocate that approach.
    But there will come a time when you can't buy players of the calibre of Alderweireld, Eriksen, Alli etc on the cheap.
    Paying the market rate in fees and wages is a reality for Spurs going forward.
    This is the challenge when mixing it with the super rich.
    Pogba was £89M BTW. He can **** off for £100M this summer if he wants to.
     
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  14. Citizen Kane.

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    Morata signs for Atletico for how much?!

    He was utterly ****e at chelsea. They must be laughing all the way to the bank.
     
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  15. Sucky

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    Chelsea paid around 11m<whistle>
     
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  16. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    It's a complete fiction that Pogba cost United £89m, that's just what United paid Juve. When you include the 'Raiola tax', it's a whole lot more...actually somewhere between £16m and £25m more, coming from United, over the course of the contract - all directly into Raiola's pocket. So, it's more like £105 - £114m. Raiola got a whole lot more from Juve, so my figures were a little heavy (which is why we don't buy his clients).

    None of the above militates the fact that United's big money purchases have been total disasters. Spending big money on transfers guarantees you nothing but big wages. Citeh's record spend is nowhere near what Pogba and Lukaku cost. Is spending at that level holding them back?

    Equally, quoting our transfer spend from a period when our income was less than half of what it is now, is pointless. We signed Eriksen in 2013 and Dele Alli and Toby Alderweireld in 2015. We're not that club anymore and the change is permanent with the income from the stadium and sponsorship deals coming in.

    Our income is now comfortably over £400m and still growing. It will be more for the last campaign. Already, for the season ahead, we've spent £55m on Ndombele and will spend near £60m on Lo Celso. That's what Citeh pay for players and it's not based upon selling Eriksen, as we're still trying to keep him.

    Admittedly, we'll probably pick up the Sessegnon twins for £30m and Jack Clarke cost us £10m, but we'll always look to do that kind of business for young players. However, that's by choice now, not necessity. Now, if we want to buy top young talent, we can.buy it and offer wages to match. Obviously, United and Arsenal want it to be otherwise but we've moved on.
     
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  17. humanbeingincroydon

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    For less than what the Chavs paid for him two years ago
     
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  18. The RDBD

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    Man Utd will always have a large supporter base, when the plastics have
    long melted away. Those supporters will manifest themselves in both
    attendance and merchandise purchase.

    Whether that income is enough for the club to remain static or rise again,
    is another story.
     
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  19. BobbyD

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    Bbc says we signed him for 60m we aquid and we are getting rid 65m (euros so around 58?).

    Happy take a 2m loss he was useless.

    Goes to show how stupid and inflated this market is considering we bought him when he had great potential and now we are selling him as a total chelsea flop (will undoubtedly be brilliant for a madrid).

    Saying thay atletico are spending stupid money for someone we were trying to give away and theyve been flashing their cash all windoe having bought that felix guy after 1 good season in the portuguese league for 100 odd million euros
     
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  20. The RDBD

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    You paid the PL tax imposed by an overseas club. Nothing more to it.


    "Saying thay atletico are spending stupid money for someone we were trying to give away"

    Morata may actually be worth that.
    Not every class striker settles into the PL (the general pace and/or the way a club plays) .


    "theyve been flashing their cash all windoe having bought that felix guy after 1 good season in
    the portuguese league for 100 odd million euros"

    Are they not showing their ambition to seriously compete with La Liga darlings
    (who are benefit from considerable financial bias) on a continual basis ??
     
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