But if the UK doesn't put in a hard border, I don't understand what the problem is.
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But if the UK doesn't put in a hard border, I don't understand what the problem is.
Guy VerhofstadtVerified account@guyverhofstadt 7h7 hours ago
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Nigel Farage facing some stiff competition as chief clown of the Brexit Party in the @Europarl_EN. By the way, when Widdecombe talks about “colonies liberating themselves from their empires”, is she really referring to the American Revolution of 1776?
they called the uk a colony
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Nigel Farage facing some stiff competition as chief clown of the Brexit Party in the @Europarl_EN. By the way, when Widdecombe talks about “colonies liberating themselves from their empires”, is she really referring to the American Revolution of 1776?
they called the uk a colony
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I see what you did there. Witty.
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As @brexitparty_uk MEP @jake_pugh just said “Today is the 243rd anniversary of the USA leaving the UK without a deal. Didn’t turn out too shabbily for them...
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As @brexitparty_uk MEP @jake_pugh just said “Today is the 243rd anniversary of the USA leaving the UK without a deal. Didn’t turn out too shabbily for them...
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Met Police Slam Electoral Commission, Demolish Latest Loony Remoaner Lawsuit
FBPErs were wetting themselves with excitement recently over a fresh no-hope anti-Brexit lawsuit brought by Remainiac MPs Tom Brake, Ben Bradshaw and Caroline Lucas. The Met Police’s lawyers have now responded to the legal threat, it doesn’t make pretty reading at all for the Remainers. Not that it’s stopping lawsuit-happy lawyers having a field day creaming cash from gullible Remainers on cases that have no chance of success…
First off they point out that the MPs themselves have no relevance to the case themselves – as required by law to actually bring the case. They then note that the Remainers’ expensive lawyers, Bindmans, have “not cited a single authority” where the courts have intervened in a police investigation in the way they want – by forcing them to bring a prosecutorial decision or hand over their entire investigation to the CPS within fourteen days. Politicians attempting to use the courts to compel the police in this way is truly extraordinary, this is real kangaroo court stuff…
However the people who’ll be squirming most reading it are the hapless Electoral Commission. The police lawyers list a truly remarkable catalogue of fundamental errors made by the UK’s electoral regulator:
“The proposed claim appears to be premised on the assumption that… when the EC referred those matters to the MPS it supplied all potential relevant documents… That assumption is incorrect…
“When the EC referred the matters to the MPS, the EC did not provide the documentation from its own investigation as your Letter of Claim asserts. Instead the EC required the MPS to make a request for disclosure pursuant to the Data Protection Act 2018 (a process that the MPS does not consider was necessary)…
“That documentation was not indexed or organised in what the MPS considered to be a systematic or logical fashion. The EC did not provide (and has not provided) the MPS with a comprehensive schedule of all used and unused material held by the EC from its investigation of the kind that the police would compile in a criminal investigation.
“The EC’s approach to the gathering and disclosure of evidence does not appear to the MPS to have complied with the letter or the spirit of the Criminal Procedure and Investigation Act 1996 and associated guidance…
“The MPS formed the view that EC has not disclosed all the documents in its possession or control that are potentially relevant to its investigation. The MPS has sought further disclosure from the EC on a number of occasions… The MPS remains of the view that the EC has not disclosed all of the documents in its possession or control that are potentially relevant to MPS’ investigation.
“Your letter of claim has only served to reinforce this view.”
This is a staggering indictment of the levels of pure unbridled incompetence at the heart of the quango that is trusted to be judge, jury and executioner of the UK’s electoral system. No-one in their right mind would hand such a bunch of rank amateurs yet more discretionary power over the UK’s democracy, the Tories are sensibly pushing back against it. Yet more evidence that the Electoral Commission is simply unfit for purpose…
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FBPErs were wetting themselves with excitement recently over a fresh no-hope anti-Brexit lawsuit brought by Remainiac MPs Tom Brake, Ben Bradshaw and Caroline Lucas. The Met Police’s lawyers have now responded to the legal threat, it doesn’t make pretty reading at all for the Remainers. Not that it’s stopping lawsuit-happy lawyers having a field day creaming cash from gullible Remainers on cases that have no chance of success…
First off they point out that the MPs themselves have no relevance to the case themselves – as required by law to actually bring the case. They then note that the Remainers’ expensive lawyers, Bindmans, have “not cited a single authority” where the courts have intervened in a police investigation in the way they want – by forcing them to bring a prosecutorial decision or hand over their entire investigation to the CPS within fourteen days. Politicians attempting to use the courts to compel the police in this way is truly extraordinary, this is real kangaroo court stuff…
However the people who’ll be squirming most reading it are the hapless Electoral Commission. The police lawyers list a truly remarkable catalogue of fundamental errors made by the UK’s electoral regulator:
“The proposed claim appears to be premised on the assumption that… when the EC referred those matters to the MPS it supplied all potential relevant documents… That assumption is incorrect…
“When the EC referred the matters to the MPS, the EC did not provide the documentation from its own investigation as your Letter of Claim asserts. Instead the EC required the MPS to make a request for disclosure pursuant to the Data Protection Act 2018 (a process that the MPS does not consider was necessary)…
“That documentation was not indexed or organised in what the MPS considered to be a systematic or logical fashion. The EC did not provide (and has not provided) the MPS with a comprehensive schedule of all used and unused material held by the EC from its investigation of the kind that the police would compile in a criminal investigation.
“The EC’s approach to the gathering and disclosure of evidence does not appear to the MPS to have complied with the letter or the spirit of the Criminal Procedure and Investigation Act 1996 and associated guidance…
“The MPS formed the view that EC has not disclosed all the documents in its possession or control that are potentially relevant to its investigation. The MPS has sought further disclosure from the EC on a number of occasions… The MPS remains of the view that the EC has not disclosed all of the documents in its possession or control that are potentially relevant to MPS’ investigation.
“Your letter of claim has only served to reinforce this view.”
This is a staggering indictment of the levels of pure unbridled incompetence at the heart of the quango that is trusted to be judge, jury and executioner of the UK’s electoral system. No-one in their right mind would hand such a bunch of rank amateurs yet more discretionary power over the UK’s democracy, the Tories are sensibly pushing back against it. Yet more evidence that the Electoral Commission is simply unfit for purpose…
Our Parliamentary system leaves much to be desired, and there's an occasional scandal like expenses or MP's perjuring themselves over speeding fines etc, but it looks pretty decent when compared to the smoke and mirrors EU model imo.
Pretty decent ? You are joking ?
They are all rubbish imo but the key difference here is that’s it’s far better to blame the foreigners
That’s it in a nutshell for me
The chipset on national pride automatically cuts in with us Brits
We are far more corrupt imo but because of the nature of our sheep culture we do nothing about it
The EU is not about Brussels and it’s leadership
There is no leadership anyway it’s a collective of states all of which feed into one Union
The leaders are spotlight puppets
We are **** and they get things done
Nothing to compare and nothing decent about the U.K. system imo and recently I would say the proof is there for the world to see
The U.K. political system is possibly the worst currently in the western world
Exactly in a nutshell
And generally Brexiteers haven’t a clue on this matter and imo it’s sinful to not consider this as well as the other factors of course
Couldn’t give a **** what the habitual criminals name is, could be Mary poppins for all I care, he committed a crime he’s previously been done for, hopefully he’ll get sent down.
By a few Yes but the very same people don’t seem to accept exactly how corrupt the the U.K. is
Look at Brexit you won and still nothing done
Joke Governance the worse in history in fact
Have you forgotten that ?
Corruption not much proved on either side imo
Yet you are programmed to Carry on being British at all costs ? I would of thought you would be more open minded after the last three years of farce ?
Sending people like widdicomb or whatever the silly old bitch is called, out to represent our country in the EU just shows our complete decline in politics! The other member states must think we are a complete joke. Absolutely baffles me that someone who doesnt want to be part of the EU will gladly take a pay check and represent. Just **** off if you're that against it.
Interesting perspective. Had they not broken away the United States would have abolished slavery 30 years earlier without a civil war in which 620,000 died, they wouldn't have a gun culture due to a confusing amendment to their constitution and they would most likely have been a fully sovereign independent state for well over a century, just like Australia, New Zealand and Canada, with a similar culture. They would also have entered both world wars much earlier and ended them much sooner with consequent reduction in casualties.
But if you are a Brexit Party MEP it seems historical perspective is not in the person specification.
Could say the same of the SNP MPs in Westminster and others.
Frankly, I couldn’t see much wrong with Widdly’s comments; just another opportunity for the ‘right on’ to adopt their customary faux outrage and hint at the R-word again.
Did you see all that **** about Nike trainers? Could someone get me a pair as they’re already going for £2k a pop?
What do you honestly feel about the current EU candidates ? All fit for their posts ? Any scent whatsoever of corruption ?
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You could say the same. She is a dizzy old set in her 18th century ways bitch who should be put out to pasture! A pure embarrassment to england and the rest of the uk.
What a disgusting spectacle this Tory leadership contest is. Who'd have thought that from the fetid Tory swamp, David Gauke would emerge as a near human?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/03/minister-predicts-his-own-sacking-in-speech-attacking-populists?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX01vcm5pbmdCcmllZmluZ1VLLTE5MDcwNA==&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=MorningBriefingUK&CMP=morningbriefinguk_email&fbclid=IwAR1gJyozWLDpGsa7soqCiD9jpocFlDwjCaV_FXMEWODszyXuR3Pjp0PBV08
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/03/minister-predicts-his-own-sacking-in-speech-attacking-populists?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX01vcm5pbmdCcmllZmluZ1VLLTE5MDcwNA==&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=MorningBriefingUK&CMP=morningbriefinguk_email&fbclid=IwAR1gJyozWLDpGsa7soqCiD9jpocFlDwjCaV_FXMEWODszyXuR3Pjp0PBV08
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