Match Day Thread Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

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I'm experiencing life now, not in the future through history books

BTW [HASHTAG]#bite[/HASHTAG] and got you back on the LFC board :emoticon-0150-hands
It's the pl board's fault - they've all sacked off the football in favour of telling each other what they're having for dinner, where they're going at the weekend and what's better custard creams or digestives :bandit:
 
You’ve had a cracking season, been good to watch etc. However, you could well end up winning nothing, which will show in the history books as you winning **** all again.

I honestly don't really mind what the history books say (believe it or not). We've massively improved on last season overall, and despite winning jack (again), that's what you look for from your team.
 
Actually thought Leicester did alright in the first half last night. Their tactic was to get city to take long shots and was inevitably their undoing.

A goal was coming though, I think 15 minutes into the 2nd half they showed a graphic where there was 0% in the final third for Leicester since halftime.
 
Thanks for the sensible reply. I dont totally agree with net spend as you say, can distort/inflate potentially.

Interesting quote I will leave this forum from Klopp three years ago.

“Other clubs can go out and spend more money and collect top players, yes."

“Do I have to do it differently to that? Actually, I WANT to do it differently. I would even do it differently if I COULD spend that money."



In related news, Liverpool outspent Manchester City this year.
I'm sure that is what he wanted to do - but reality bit his bum.
We had a lot of money from Coutinho and everyone knew that, so we were always going to get screwed when trying to buy.
Klopp had identified the areas he needed to improve the team (we've seen how effective he was) but he had to pay up or give up.
The money was available because of several years of good housekeeping - not because of a deep-pocketed sugar-daddy.

Your last sentence is still as irrelevant as it was earlier.
It would be like me buying a replacement jalopy for 3 grand while my next door neighbour still has his brand new £40k car from last year. I might have outspent him this year but he's still got a more expensive car.
 
I'm sure that is what he wanted to do - but reality bit his bum.
We had a lot of money from Coutinho and everyone knew that, so we were always going to get screwed when trying to buy.
Klopp had identified the areas he needed to improve the team (we've seen how effective he was) but he had to pay up or give up.
The money was available because of several years of good housekeeping - not because of a deep-pocketed sugar-daddy.

Your last sentence is still as irrelevant as it was earlier.
It would be like me buying a replacement jalopy for 3 grand while my next door neighbour still has his brand new £40k car from last year. I might have outspent him this year but he's still got a more expensive car.

People love to talk about the price of our GK and one of our CBs. What about the free RB? What about the £8m LB? What about the 2nd choice CB that was £3.5m? And the other CB that was free?

Even our back 5 is still cheaper than Man Utd's and City's.
 
I'm sure that is what he wanted to do - but reality bit his bum.
We had a lot of money from Coutinho and everyone knew that, so we were always going to get screwed when trying to buy.
Klopp had identified the areas he needed to improve the team (we've seen how effective he was) but he had to pay up or give up.
The money was available because of several years of good housekeeping - not because of a deep-pocketed sugar-daddy.

Your last sentence is still as irrelevant as it was earlier.
It would be like me buying a replacement jalopy for 3 grand while my next door neighbour still has his brand new £40k car from last year. I might have outspent him this year but he's still got a more expensive car.

Maybe, it’s all irrelevant as people only remember the winners, no matter how much they spent or how close the table is.
 
Maybe, it’s all irrelevant as people only remember the winners, no matter how much they spent or how close the table is.

It would be pretty pathetic to only live your life according to what other people will remember.
 
Not sure that makes sense to me, I’ve never said that. And considering the bollocks I spout is like the pot calling the kettle black <laugh>
I think the gist is it doesn't matter what "people will remember", that's the old history book comment rehashed. The fans involved are living it now.
 
I’m not here on the wind up, but it’s derisable listening to complaints of how much money City spent v Pool. You’ve spent ****loads of money, probably outspent City in the past few seasons.

You have been great this year, most years you would have strolled to the title. It’s been great to watch so well done on being a valid part of it.

The other comments, not necessarily by you, about bad refs giving City everything is also pretty dumb, considering the amount of pens won by dives by Salah (and other teams players).

I’ve long been saying it but that part is ruining the game and I’m getting close to not watching games as s result.
Since it was me you replied to originally...

Yes, we have spent **** loads of money. No one's denying that. Every club bar Spurs does the same nowadays. How we're only using net spend and ignoring other stats? You're only using total spend and ignoring other stats...pot meet kettle.

Any business in the world (apart from maybe the banks) has to consider total income versus expenditure. You can't spend what you don't have. We wouldn't have (couldn't have) bought Alisson and VVD if we didn't sell Coutinho, that much is clear. We made record profits last year and it's because we had to sell to buy. Consider houses for sale for 200k. I buy it outright and add it to my collection, you have to sell your previous house and then buy it. I have two, you still have one. We've spent the same total, you've spend 0 net. I'm backed by some infinite source of income whereas you're not. Lets continue that further, few years down the line. House is crocked but no one will buy it, I'll just go buy another for 300k ('sup inflation) and not worry about the second one. You've got to sell yours again to buy another.

Therein lies a huge problem; City have no consequences for poor buys, other clubs do. Look at United with Sanchez! Can't get rid, can't really buy others until he goes. If VVD didn't work out for us, my god we'd be ****ed.

There's been reports about City's income in the past decade. Whilst yes, it has improved dramatically over the past 5 years or so to the point where wages are hovering around 55% of total income and they're making profits in some seasons (total income, not just transfers), you also have to question where that money is coming from. Sponsorship deals accounted for 232million in 2018 second only to United, but battering Chelsea's 133mill, Liverpool's 136mill and Arsenal's 125mill. For a team with less European pedigree, less global exposure and generally, a lower fanbase. Coincidentally, their biggest sponsers have family links (Hi uncles, brothers, cousins with mates rates). It takes decades to build a fanbase. Some plastics will swap teams, but usually you need to get the kids and indoctrinate them early. Suddenly winning a title or two doesn't suddenly grant you a huge fanbase comparable to United, Liverpool or Arsenal and the income that provides.

I don't mind clubs who spend massively, I like it! Better quality in the league for better games. What I detest, however, are clubs who spend what they don't honestly earn to effectively turn on the same cheat mode I used when I was 15years old playing football manager to buy whatever I wanted and never go bankrupt. It's spoiling the game for fair, honest clubs. PSG, City, Malaga and Chelsea previously...I can't stand them and I hate the way the press fornicate over them when they're the clubs ruining the game.
 
Since it was me you replied to originally...

Yes, we have spent **** loads of money. No one's denying that. Every club bar Spurs does the same nowadays. How we're only using net spend and ignoring other stats? You're only using total spend and ignoring other stats...pot meet kettle.

Any business in the world (apart from maybe the banks) has to consider total income versus expenditure. You can't spend what you don't have. We wouldn't have (couldn't have) bought Alisson and VVD if we didn't sell Coutinho, that much is clear. We made record profits last year and it's because we had to sell to buy. Consider houses for sale for 200k. I buy it outright and add it to my collection, you have to sell your previous house and then buy it. I have two, you still have one. We've spent the same total, you've spend 0 net. I'm backed by some infinite source of income whereas you're not. Lets continue that further, few years down the line. House is crocked but no one will buy it, I'll just go buy another for 300k ('sup inflation) and not worry about the second one. You've got to sell yours again to buy another.

Therein lies a huge problem; City have no consequences for poor buys, other clubs do. Look at United with Sanchez! Can't get rid, can't really buy others until he goes. If VVD didn't work out for us, my god we'd be ****ed.

There's been reports about City's income in the past decade. Whilst yes, it has improved dramatically over the past 5 years or so to the point where wages are hovering around 55% of total income and they're making profits in some seasons (total income, not just transfers), you also have to question where that money is coming from. Sponsorship deals accounted for 232million in 2018 second only to United, but battering Chelsea's 133mill, Liverpool's 136mill and Arsenal's 125mill. For a team with less European pedigree, less global exposure and generally, a lower fanbase. Coincidentally, their biggest sponsers have family links (Hi uncles, brothers, cousins with mates rates). It takes decades to build a fanbase. Some plastics will swap teams, but usually you need to get the kids and indoctrinate them early. Suddenly winning a title or two doesn't suddenly grant you a huge fanbase comparable to United, Liverpool or Arsenal and the income that provides.

I don't mind clubs who spend massively, I like it! Better quality in the league for better games. What I detest, however, are clubs who spend what they don't honestly earn to effectively turn on the same cheat mode I used when I was 15years old playing football manager to buy whatever I wanted and never go bankrupt. It's spoiling the game for fair, honest clubs. PSG, City, Malaga and Chelsea previously...I can't stand them and I hate the way the press fornicate over them when they're the clubs ruining the game.
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