Cheltenham 2019 Ante Post Thread

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Agree, Russell was trying to be clever when going best, walked through the second last and got sandwiched at the last by 2 horses he should have took a couple of lengths out of turning in.

Was the best RSA for a while and one of the few races at the meeting that wasnt trash.

Think he was concerned given how poor a few of the yards horses finished on day 1 and didn’t kick when he might do normally
 
Think he was concerned given how poor a few of the yards horses finished on day 1 and didn’t kick when he might do normally
The other 2 are a year older and were more suited to the soft ground as well, Delta Work would be a big player in the Gold Cup if they get good ground in the next few years.
 
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Looks like the forum failed to land any big ante post punts, best I had was two placed efforts which was disappointing.Will probably narrow it down to one or two selections next year if I'm arsed at the time.
I got Silver Streak ew Ste. The fact that he was treble the price on the morning of the race that I secured antepost and returned 2.5 times that price is a minor detail I haven't dwelt on <doh>. Quite frankly unless you fancy one that is connected to one of the big outfits (Mullins/Elliott/Nicholls/Hendo) antepost is a waste of time. I just hope I remember this in 6 months time <laugh>.
 
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Frodon is a fascinating horse for the festival, I think he is improving still and if the form of the weekend is to be believed then he ran right up to his mark (or even passed it) and at 161 he has similar handicap mark to many placed horses in the last five Ryanair chases.

And did I flipping back him?
 
Good stuff lads, glad a couple of you had some joy.I've certainly learned my lesson this year!!!!
 
I am on Klassical Dream for the Champion Hurdle at 10/1 next year. He is in a few markets but the Champion is surely there to be tilted at and Mullins made some encouraging comments about the horse after the Supreme.

If I were taking a chance on one at this range I would be going for the 33/1 about Quick Grabim. I think he'd have won that Supreme on the snaff and Mullins was hoping to have him back for Punchestown when reporting he would miss Cheltenham after a stress fracture.

We could just change the year in the title of this thread and keep it rolling for another 12 months <laugh>
 
I must admit I’ve gone in with

A Plus Tard Ryanair 20/1
Topofthegame GC 10/1
Delta Work GC 25/1

Just on reflection of what we’ve seen this last week. Not seen a horse finish like APT in so long, fairly scooted up the hill.
 
I must admit I’ve gone in with

A Plus Tard Ryanair 20/1
Topofthegame GC 10/1
Delta Work GC 25/1

Just on reflection of what we’ve seen this last week. Not seen a horse finish like APT in so long, fairly scooted up the hill.

I backed the first two :)

Nass do you think Clan des Obeaux could go closer in the 2020 CGC? I still think he has some filling out and maturing to do and think he might see out the trip better next year.
 
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I backed the first two :)

Nass do you think Clan des Obeaux could go closer in the 2020 CGC? I still think he has some filling out and maturing to do and think he might see out the trip better next year.

Yep I would agree with that but my concern with him is that he is a flat track horse and the hill will see something staying stronger. I just think the novices this year are better, the RSA was the race of the meeting for me.
 
Yep I would agree with that but my concern with him is that he is a flat track horse and the hill will see something staying stronger. I just think the novices this year are better, the RSA was the race of the meeting for me.

Do you not think that the RSA was the race of the year last year also?
 
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I got Silver Streak ew Ste. The fact that he was treble the price on the morning of the race that I secured antepost and returned 2.5 times that price is a minor detail I haven't dwelt on <doh>. Quite frankly unless you fancy one that is connected to one of the big outfits (Mullins/Elliott/Nicholls/Hendo) antepost is a waste of time. I just hope I remember this in 6 months time <laugh>.

Don't worry I will be back on next year to warn you all ante post betting is a waste of time!!!. I expect though no one will take a blind bit of notice. Funny you said the price was better at the off too..again proving my point plenty of value to be had on the day - no need to be greedy. I backed Aso 40/1 e.w on the day
 
Looking at Clan Des Obeaux my impression was that he didn't quite get home. The time of the race was faster than Native River's winning time the previous year by more than 20 seconds, so I don't think the ground was that soft. The stats show that Clan Des Obeaux has run at trips in excess of 24F three times and lost three times, the margin of defeat has been a cumulative thirty one lengths. It looks quite compelling and I am not sure what the stats are for horses staying better at 8YO than 7YO.

He's popular as co-favourite for the King George at 6/1 but the form of that race hasn't worked out well with zero wins from twelve runs since. I thought an interesting one for the King George might be La Bague Au Roi at 16/1. She has beaten Topofthegame and Lostintranslation this season and they were 1st in the RSA and 2nd in the JLT. The Mildmay Novices Chase at Aintree is listed as her next target. I know I wouldn't want to oppose her off her 150 mark in a Handicap.
 
Looking at Clan Des Obeaux my impression was that he didn't quite get home. The time of the race was faster than Native River's winning time the previous year by more than 20 seconds, so I don't think the ground was that soft. The stats show that Clan Des Obeaux has run at trips in excess of 24F three times and lost three times, the margin of defeat has been a cumulative thirty one lengths. It looks quite compelling and I am not sure what the stats are for horses staying better at 8YO than 7YO.

He's popular as co-favourite for the King George at 6/1 but the form of that race hasn't worked out well with zero wins from twelve runs since. I thought an interesting one for the King George might be La Bague Au Roi at 16/1. She has beaten Topofthegame and Lostintranslation this season and they were 1st in the RSA and 2nd in the JLT. The Mildmay Novices Chase at Aintree is listed as her next target. I know I wouldn't want to oppose her off her 150 mark in a Handicap.

I just think with another year of strengthening he might see out the trip better. When Native River finished 3rd a couple of years ago one could argue he got outstayed at the end of a long, hard season but made mo mistake a year later.

Any of these good novices likely to rock up at Newbury st the end of November for tha Ladbrokes Trophy?
 
I just think with another year of strengthening he might see out the trip better. When Native River finished 3rd a couple of years ago one could argue he got outstayed at the end of a long, hard season but made mo mistake a year later.

Any of these good novices likely to rock up at Newbury st the end of November for tha Ladbrokes Trophy?

I hope Lostintranslation does, to me he’s relish that trip and can improve further next season.
 
I just think with another year of strengthening he might see out the trip better. When Native River finished 3rd a couple of years ago one could argue he got outstayed at the end of a long, hard season but made mo mistake a year later.

Any of these good novices likely to rock up at Newbury st the end of November for tha Ladbrokes Trophy?
Surely they won’t send both CDO and Topofthegame- CDO I suspect will he kept to the 3m eg king George, aintree etc.. and Topofthegame the gold cup route may even go Hennessy (will always be known as that) and do the same route as Denman , to me Topofthegame looks like he will as Mick Fitz once said about denman burdens weight for fun!
 
Also worth noting that Topothegame has very strong form over shorter aswell. That run behind Defi Du Seuil looks incredible now. Although his aim may be the Gold Cup next year, can see him mopping over some shorter distanced races to split the pair.