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[ELLERS]

So Bercow chooses amendments to take powers away from government and that May can't bring back her MV without change...yet he didn't choose the vote to get rid of a second referendum? Says it all doesn't it? After the Spelman fiasco yesterday you would have thought he wouldn't look like the remainer he is?

Come on May grow some ball and leave on the 29th and tell these twats to **** off!
Then you will restore some trust again.

 

[Turkish" Premier" Hoops]

One soldier to be prosecuted over Bloody Sunday. ‘Insufficient evidence’ to prosecute 16 others and 2 IRA men.

I’m deeply ambivalent about this. I can understand why people want justice, just like the ongoing stuff about the Birmingham pub bombings and Hillsborough, and it’s really not my place to debate or deny them this. But it does all seem a very long time ago. I wish it would all just go away.

But I’m confused as to why a squaddie is being prosecuted. The Colonel in charge was interviewed on telly last night and he had clearly (and unashamedly) ordered and endorsed the actions taken on that horrible day. If the shootings were illegal (and I’m no expert on this) surely the full chain of command should be in the dock?

I’m afraid all this has come about because as I have stated before we live in a culture and society of “where there’s a blame, there’s a claim”.
You just have to watch TV for a few hours and every second advert is for a firm of shyster ambulance chasing lawyers,
Injury Lawyers for You!
Offended by something Lawyers for You,
No win ! No fee ! We sue anybody for anything .com
Sue the lawyers that lost your claim .com
I too am confused, what good is it going to do the victims, or the poor ex soldier who was only following his commanding officers orders and is now probably a pensioner and can’t remember what he had for breakfast never mind why as a young soldier he fired his weapon that day, other than he was told he had too, because it’s what he was trained for !!
We now live in a society where it doesn’t matter what happened or why but a society where somebody must be blamed, because it makes the libtards feel better.

 

[ELLERS]

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[ELLERS]

Final stitch up
The weak Liddington has just confirmed that we will not be leaving on the 29th and if everything goes wrong the government will put in measures to stop no deal which mean revoking article 50... That has just be confirmed.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Final stitch up
The weak Liddington has just confirmed that we will not be leaving on the 29th and if everything goes wrong the government will put in measures to stop no deal which mean revoking article 50... That has just be confirmed.

The sooner we get a Brexit party the better. They'll clean up at the next GE

 

[rangercol]

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Further evidence, if it were ever needed, that the establishment will never allow Brexit.

Bercow is implicit in this too.

 

[ELLERS]

Tusk arrives in Brussels with the biggest smile on his face laughing.
We really have become a weak country...this is a quicker surrender than France

Tusk is also open to a long extension.

 

[ELLERS]

The sooner we get a Brexit party the better. They'll clean up at the next GE

Agree Goldie. I am absolutely disgusted how these MP's have killed democracy in this country. The Tories and Labour are finished. The press and commentators are all kicking off describing it as a betrayal. Farage was right all along. We need a GE Now... of the 8 in my Family (6 Tories 1 Labour 1 limp Dem) will all vote Brexit Party

 

[sb_73]

Agree Goldie. I am absolutely disgusted how these MP's have killed democracy in this country. The Tories and Labour are finished. The press and commentators are all kicking off describing it as a betrayal. Farage was right all along. We need a GE because of the 8 in my Family (6 Tories 1 Labour 1 limp Dem) will all vote Brexit Party

Let’s say a Brexit Party stands and wins the next election. It’s standing to become the government, not simply to deliver Brexit, unless it does that and then dissolves itself. What else would you want to see in its manifesto, the non Brexit related stuff? Serious question, not a wind up.

 

[Staines R's]

The sooner we get a Brexit party the better. They'll clean up at the next GE

Goldie - Do you think the Brexit Party might have any policies on public health, education, homelessness social care etc etc ? Or do you just foresee them being a ‘one policy party’ ie Brexit ?
And if they were just standing on Brexit alone, would you really vote for them ?
Genuine question as I think sadly many would.

 

[Staines R's]

Let’s say a Brexit Party stands and wins the next election. It’s standing to become the government, not simply to deliver Brexit, unless it does that and then dissolves itself. What else would you want to see in its manifesto, the non Brexit related stuff? Serious question, not a wind up.

I should of read your post first G.
I must be getting good at this if I’m thinking the same as people like yourself

 

[sb_73]

I should of read your post first G.
I must be getting good at this if I’m thinking the same as people like yourself

Ha!

How was the inking? What did you have done?

 

[Staines R's]

Ha!

How was the inking? What did you have done?

Had my sleeve finished off.....clouds, a carnation for my mum and a golf tee for my dad......and a small Black Anarchist star for me .
You’ll love it, lots of angels and cherubs, a dove and a hand of Hamza.....kids names and even a LATIN poem (which I know you’d love
Now just getting an old bulldog lazered off then finishing the arm off with, probably, a Greek god.....

 

[ELLERS]

Let’s say a Brexit Party stands and wins the next election. It’s standing to become the government, not simply to deliver Brexit, unless it does that and then dissolves itself. What else would you want to see in its manifesto, the non Brexit related stuff? Serious question, not a wind up.

I don't care anymore. All my life I have abided by the rules of democracy. I never wanted Blair in but accepted the result. I didn't want to invade Iraq but accepted the result. QPR lost last night and although I am p'd, I accepted the result.... That's how things work, until last night that is. If you start changing results because you didn't like the answer, then you are no better than a banana republic.

What made me smile today was listening to a Hungarian MP who said 'We have had 30 years of democracy".
whether you are remain or Leave you should have respected the result and got on with it. If remain had won I would have respected the result.... Never would there have been this much crap.

I have said on here about what people are saying on the radio and in pubs and was mocked. The fact is the public don't like being betrayed and will make the MP's pay at the next election. The MP's are crapping themselves because most know they will be out at the next GE.

People will vote for a Brexit Party and they will take many seats. This is not like any other protest vote. It will be a Trump moment. To answer your question after all that... I don't care about policies, I just want out and to see the end of the muppets in the house including that small muppet Bercow.

 

[rangercol]

Goldie - Do you think the Brexit Party might have any policies on public health, education, homelessness social care etc etc ? Or do you just foresee them being a ‘one policy party’ ie Brexit ?
And if they were just standing on Brexit alone, would you really vote for them ?
Genuine question as I think sadly many would.

This is the result of the current lot behaving in the way they have.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Goldie - Do you think the Brexit Party might have any policies on public health, education, homelessness social care etc etc ? Or do you just foresee them being a ‘one policy party’ ie Brexit ?
And if they were just standing on Brexit alone, would you really vote for them ?
Genuine question as I think sadly many would.

They would have to have a full manifesto. I don't say a Brexit Party would win a election, but they could win a lot of seats and wield big influence in a no- majority Parliament. Big bargaining power.

 

[Staines R's]

This is the result of the current lot behaving in the way they have.

Maybe Col, but still not a wise move I feel. You’ll always get twats who will say **** everything else, we just want out....but as an intelligent man (which I know for sure you are).......don’t you think that’s rather short sighted ?

 

[Staines R's]

They would have to have a full manifesto. I don't say a Brexit Party would win a election, but they could win a lot of seats and wield big influence in a no- majority Parliament. Big bargaining power.

Again, as I said to Col (and coming from me who is someone who is a firm leaver).....if they were a one policy party, which I think they would be.....then wouldn’t it be short sighted to vote for them

 

[rangercol]

Again, as I said to Col (and coming from me who is someone who is a firm leaver).....if they were a one policy party, which I think they would be.....then wouldn’t it be short sighted to vote for them

Of course it would, but push the British people into a corner and piss them off enough and these things are possible .
Why did so many vote for Trump?

We are living through unprecedented times and I'm not sure anything will ever be the same again politically .
You should be pleased mate, as I reckon we're a step nearer your revolution.

 

[Stroller]

A question for all the Brexiteers on here. If you were an MP, would you vote for May's deal when it comes up again next week?