I understand where you are coming from. However the whole world has to move on from the intentional racist abuse and derogatory name calling and that includes victims as well as perpetrators. It really is expecting too much for people to have to remember that 'persons of colour' is acceptable and not offensive but 'coloured' was perceived to be even if not intended and therefore is even more so today. As you say the way in which the words are said. ie the context makes all the difference. That is the danger of political correctness. It ignores context.
With reference to your first paragraph.... I didn’t have that many white friends to be honest......I hung about with the black kids mostly ‘cos they were more into the music I liked (Reggae and Ska) and my school was about 50% white, 30% Asian and 20% black so easy for us all to mix. My best mates mum always referred to herself as coloured, as did all of my mates who were black....maybe you didn’t know many ‘people of colour’ when you were growing up......luckily I did
Don't be so silly. Have you ever tried to discuss politics or philosophy with a ram or a ewe?. They're all stupid and a clever animal like a dog can make them all run over a cliff
Not properly I’ll admit.....apologies. I was just a bit pissed off at the insinuation of the first paragraph.....maybe I’m tired and took offence where it wasn’t meant.....if so, I’m sorry......
Pomes I have heard two versions First is the usual Prisoners Of Mother England The second one is the captains of the prisoner ships didn't know where they were taking them until they opened their orders Pome meant Point Of Migration East which meant Australia instead of to America
One of things overlooked in British Culture is the obsession of us calling people nicknames. This will always occur imo Some names of course unacceptable today as the strength of the worming tablets for the sheep has increased especially in the last 15 years The sheep bleat about it being Nanny state What it is imo is just a measure on how far we are now down the road to sedation Outrage in the U.K. is always post event Zero precaution Zero Planning It is what it is imo and racism albeit hidden is there in most people ... mild yes but it would only take one small life event to grow My Girlfriend’s family all live in Wonderland namely Brighton where they act on a fluffy liberal stage ... amazing darling Truth is they moved from Peckham to escape black people and inner culture within Every country I can think off has camps of different people and it doesn’t take much to stir the pot imo Example yesterday we had a school in Birmingham who has a problem on its hand as they are teaching about gay people ... what does the media do ... stir it all up as it’s a Muslim based school
I had heard this one..... POM Australian from 1912.[1][2] Shortening of pomegranate, rhyming slang for immigrant (“imme-granate”), with additional reference to the fact that the harsh Australian sun could turn British immigrants' skin pomegranate red.
Best post on here for a long time, took some guts as well to share with us what must have been the worst years of your life so graphically. You're absolutely spot-on that the sentences are beyond a joke now. I did a couple of weeks jury service last month and did two cases, both guilty, and both had previous which included community service orders and offences included failure to carry out such orders. One of the guilty was a robbery at knifepoint and sentence was deferred for reports but the suggested tariff was in the range community service to 6 months inside. The other guilty defendant didn't turn up for the 2nd and 3rd days of his trial and is probably still at large which tells you the contempt they now have for the law. One of the biggest contributors to the current situation is the professional excuse-makers who make a fortune on referrals and the offenders soon learn how to play the system. The Human Rights Act, so well-intentioned, has been hi-jacked as the criminals' friend, yet what about the human rights of the victims that have been violated by these scumbags? Yet anyone who mentions zero-tolerance and getting heavy with crime is regarded as a 'fascist' by the smug intellectuals who think they have the moral high ground. I really don't know where we go from here, the current system is so broken and all the suggestions that have been mentioned in the past few weeks may take years to make little if any progress. Brexit has basically taken the government's eye off the ball but unless they get a grip and treat it as the emegency it is and actually hand out meaningful mandatory sentences nothing will change...
Will Self is an obnoxious knob who I would never get tired of punching.......... Hope that helps the discussion!
Growing up I was always taught that calling (now I'd better be careful here) someone of colour (hope that's ok!!?) "coloured" was the polite description. I never once heard any explanation that it was offensive. Now I get it that it is, now, apparently offensive, but wouldn't it be nice if there weren't so many people around just waiting to take offence, either on behalf of themselves or someone else? I believe these offence takers contribute immensely to racism in a negative way.
Social media is full of them, they hunt in packs and spot and take offence at anything THEY deem is something 'ist' or 'phobic', they must lead such seriously sad lives...
I don't think he did. Other than staring at him like a boxer. If you see the whole program Will Self didn't really say much about Brexit and was called out when MF mentioned the 500 page agreement. However I will say that MF over reacted to it and either misheard him or deliberately tried to turn his comments.
I find the World quite sad now or I maybe getting old. I once did this talk to a group and said 'ginger' and was told I couldn't use that word and had to use 'red haired'.
TBH if it was a boxing match (after the stare) I would have put it down as a draw. Neither did enough to win... although the loser would have been that silly little girl on the other side.
