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JohnTheFox said:
I agree, still annoys me as it’s the sort of thing we do get pulled up for but every time we miss one (including at yours a couple of weeks back) it’s invariably an encroaching defender who prevents the rebound. I guess the message is just stick the ****er away first time of asking. Just making the point that if you argue by the laws your penalty should stand, Arsenal should have had theirs retaken that’s all
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Like Piskie, I thought both were very debatable.

The Kane pen, I’m just going by the law as I understand it. The amendment to the law says that the player has to make an attempt to challenge for the ball. If he is fouled before any challenge the foul is given. That’s as I understand it anyway.
 
We had the exact same situation with a penalty missed to equalise from being 4-0 down. The defender was almost in line with the kick taker. Refs have just given up on that rule for some reason.
 
Not read all the comments, how does a foul override the offside rule then? If you’re offside and fouled, does that mean you’re not offside anymore?
 
Tel said:
Not read all the comments, how does a foul override the offside rule then? If you’re offside and fouled, does that mean you’re not offside anymore?
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I successfully avoided the discussion yesterday as the draw was the best result for United and, ultimately, the conclusion will inevitably be that United were lucky.
 
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NSIS said:
One out of millions...and I wasn’t particularly looking at the retake, but I’ll bet somebody encroached on that too.
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Doesn't mean they aren't the rules. As a fan of the team who was having the penalty taken against them yesterday I agree with them being retaken for encroachment. Don't even penalise initially, but if the team don't score allow a retake. If the penalty ends up being taken five times then so be it. It's cheating no matter how many teams do it and it's easy to stamp out
 
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haslam said:
Doesn't mean they aren't the rules. As a fan of the team who was having the penalty taken against them yesterday I agree with them being retaken for encroachment. Don't even penalise initially, but if the team don't score allow a retake. If the penalty ends up being taken five times then so be it. It's cheating no matter how many teams do it and it's easy to stamp out
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The technology is there to apply hawkeye to Pens and encroachment. It should be a clear as a bell, as refs and lino's get this wrong so often.
 
haslam said:
Doesn't mean they aren't the rules. As a fan of the team who was having the penalty taken against them yesterday I agree with them being retaken for encroachment. Don't even penalise initially, but if the team don't score allow a retake. If the penalty ends up being taken five times then so be it. It's cheating no matter how many teams do it and it's easy to stamp out
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That’s very noble, but in reality it just ain’t gonna happen. You know it, I know it.
 
NSIS said:
That’s very noble, but in reality it just ain’t gonna happen. You know it, I know it.
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As I've just mentioned. They should apply hawk eye/goal line technology to encroachment during pens. Obviously moving it to the 18yd line
 
NSIS said:
Then you’ll have all the anti new technology lot moaning about ruining the game with delays.
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It wouldn't interfere with the game in terms of delays as far as I can see. You could have the tech permanently installed along the 18yd line and use it for encroachment and for determining whether a foul was committed inside or outside the box.
 
Tel said:
Not read all the comments, how does a foul override the offside rule then? If you’re offside and fouled, does that mean you’re not offside anymore?
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Being in an offside position is not an offence. It becomes an offence when you challenge for the ball. Obviously the referee considered Kane was prevented challenging for the ball by the foul, so that is the first offence.
 
paultheplug said:
Being in an offside position is not an offence. It becomes an offence when you challenge for the ball. Obviously the referee considered Kane was prevented challenging for the ball by the foul, so that is the first offence.
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So if a ball is pinged over the top of a defence to somebody stood in the box, and that player is fouled before the ball gets to him, it’s a pen?

Seems utterly ridiculous.
 
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Tel said:
Do you think you’ll finish above us Kipps?
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Yep.

But not in any “wager kind of way,” Tel.

I’m done with wagers.

I just want to rinse Pix on our wager, and that’s me done.
 
NSIS said:
That’s very noble, but in reality it just ain’t gonna happen. You know it, I know it.
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If they wanted it to it would be easy to enforce. It's not a difficult or complicated one. The late penalty should have been taken yesterday, it's not the only one this season but I won't complain if/when my team get pulled up for it because they should be. I don't want refs to favour my team, I just want them to get it right.
 
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Tel said:
So if a ball is pinged over the top of a defence to somebody stood in the box, and that player is fouled before the ball gets to him, it’s a pen?

Seems utterly ridiculous.
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It is stupid to foul a player in an offside position if you are aware of the laws
 
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