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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spurlock, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. Blue and White

    Blue and White Well-Known Member

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    All this time I've been lonely
    I know what you've been going through
    I'll wait until my chances occur
    'Cause you can't keep relying on Kepa

    Don't you know I'll be your substitute
    Whenever you need me
    Don't you know I'll be your substitute
    Whenever you want me
    Don't you know I'll be your substitute
    Whenever you need me
     
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  2. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    There's no chance that Real Madrid are facing the ignominy of finishing outside the top 3 in Spain...



    Shameful.
     
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  3. Blue and White

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    Thankfully we only have Mike Dean.
    Next year we'll have VAR so when at the beginning of the season ''THEY'' decide who are going to be champions, THEY will notify VAR and all will be settled .
     
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  4. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I agree. The continual awarding of clearly offside goals and ridiculous penalties to Liverpool defies any other explanation...why should VAR alter that?
     
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    Brilliant <laugh>:emoticon-0137-clapp
     
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  6. vimhawk

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    There's a good chance now that the real reason Chelski's player manager didn't go off is because he was only feigning cramp to waste time. Well that's ok then. What are the chances that the FA will then charge him for this cheating (let's call it what it is)? Anyone remember the regular "injuries" to Drogba? Chelski certainly have form for this kind of time wasting. If this is the case then all the pundits and journalists are (not for the first time) completely missing the point.
     
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  7. vimhawk

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    No, no, no. You see I've been listening to the people who know, which are the unbiased pundits. According to them it's the fact that Pool bought a new keeper and (I'll go on strike if a bigger club comes in for me) central defender that have taken them to a "new level" (which is defined as "about 6 points more than Spurs").

    It must be true because so many of them are saying exactly the same thing - you think there might be one who says something controversial (or as we like to call it "the truth") wouldn't you? Clearly buying those two players have made a big contribution, but let's summarise. The purchase of Allison and Van Dijk has resulted in Liverpool being given multiple offside goals (must be 10 or more by now!), penalties for Salah falling over that other players get yellow cards for and failure to award several penalties against Liverpool (and there are other things too). Yes, amazing how a keeper and a defender can do that!
     
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  8. humanbeingincroydon

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    Wouldn't be the first time a Chav player feigning injury confused club staff, after all Eden Hazard feigning injury led to the club medical team treating him on the pitch - which in turn led to Alberto Steptonho losing his job and also getting bitchslapped by Eva Carneiro at an employment tribunal
     
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  9. PowerSpurs

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    Under the wording of the current Laws that is a penalty. The defender takes a wild swipe at the ball and he gets nowhere near it while touching or barely missing the attacker. Contact is not required for it to be a foul. Merely that he acted 'without precaution'. I've said before that the Law is stupid but it is nevertheless the Law.

    Interestingly the Laws explicitly cover the Chelsea issue yesterday and specifically say that if a substituted player refuses to leave the field then play continues!
     
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  10. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    You're right on the law but I'm not sure about the application. Casemiro is well behind the ball and the defender when he takes a dive with pike and twist. He's never in any danger of being kicked by the swinging foot, and it doesn't stop or inhibit him from challenging for the ball. He's not barely missed by the wild swipe and could never have been hit by it, unless he had a time machine.

    Still no penalty for me.
     
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  11. paultheplug

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    Since when have the laws applied to Los Ladrones and other ‘special’ clubs.
     
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  12. deedub93

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    Mike Dean has been dropped as 4th Official for the Chavs match, sensible decision.
     
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  13. PowerSpurs

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    I think a wild swing of the foot after the ball has gone is a foul whether or not it makes contact. Possibly only dangerous play though. But if the ref thought it was a foul I don't think VaR is going to overrule it.
    On whether it was a dive, the stupid way the current Laws are worded means if it was a foul it wasn't simulation as simulation only apply if you pretend to be fouled. Exaggerating your response is not an offence!
     
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  14. SpursDisciple

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    I am genuinely staggered by your view that the defender was "touching or barely missing" - there was easily a foot or more in it. It is plain and simple cheating and I cannot believe anyone buys that decision.
     
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    I know that it doesn't specify it, but a wild swing of the foot surely has to be a danger to someone to be a foul? If a player lunges at a ball at head height, obviously out of control, to clear a lob off the line, when the nearest attacker is outside the box, even RM shouldn't get a penalty kick?

    I'm reckoning that up the other end of the pitch, there's no offence here and that's the reality of the situation. In matches, other than where Madrid/Barcelona are under-performing, this results in no action for missed kick and swan dive.
     
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  16. PleaseNotPoll

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    I haven't seen the incident, but an attempt to kick an opponent is a foul.
    Part of Law 12's definition includes:
    • kicks or attempts to kick
     
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  17. SpursDisciple

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    In this case, he didn't. Power's point was that he was reckless in kicking the ball, but I do not see that
     
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  18. deedub93

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    try this
     
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  19. PleaseNotPoll

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    That's a dive. The defender swings at the ball and Casemiro instigates contact with the back of his foot and Ashley Young's it.
     
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