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Tramore Ranger

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for year to 31st May 2018.

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The quick gist is that the club lost £37m in the year but £20m of that is the FFP fine so actual loss is £17m, still an eye watering amount and up from £6.4m the previous year.

Wages are 98% of turnover up from 64% mostly due to a drop of £15m from broadcasting income (Parachute Payments)

Re FFP when added to 2017 loss we can only loss another £15m this season otherwise we are in breach of FFP again and when the 17 loss drops out the equation we can only lose £22m this season and next season or we'll breach FFP again......

Buckle up everyone it's going to be a bumpy ride.....
 
Tramore Ranger said:
for year to 31st May 2018.

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The quick gist is that the club lost £37m in the year but £20m of that is the FFP fine so actual loss is £17m, still an eye watering amount and up from £6.4m the previous year.

Wages are 98% of turnover up from 64% mostly due to a drop of £15m from broadcasting income (Parachute Payments)

Re FFP when added to 2017 loss we can only loss another £15m this season otherwise we are in breach of FFP again and when the 17 loss drops out the equation we can only lose £22m this season and next season or we'll breach FFP again......

Buckle up everyone it's going to be a bumpy ride.....
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How much do we get for winning the Cup?
 
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It shows how difficult it is, and will be, to balence the books.

Other than the TV money from the land of milk and honey, the only options I see short term are to sell the developed players and to nurture more.

Is this the reason for loaning our all our youngsters?
 
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Stroller said:
How much do we get for winning the Cup?
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Well we've already picked up £300k for getting this far, plus 50% of gate receipts, that's what another £100k, then TV money for tomorrow God knows how much BT Sport pay but say £200k plus 50% of gate receipts unless off course Watford are so generous and waiver their share as they've so much money, cough, cough.......add another £100k.

Prize money doubles from here on in, £360k for winning tomorrow, £720k next round and so on......

The Technical term for the Financial outlook is "We're ****ed"....
 
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Tramore Ranger said:
Well we've already picked up £300k for getting this far, plus 50% of gate receipts, that's what another £100k, then TV money for tomorrow God knows how much BT Sport pay but say £200k plus 50% of gate receipts unless off course Watford are so generous and waiver their share as they've so much money, cough, cough.......add another £100k.

Prize money doubles from here on in, £360k for winning tomorrow, £720k next round and so on......

The Technical term for the Financial outlook is "We're ****ed"....
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Does just seem grossly unfair. The club are trying desperately to get in line, the purse strings have been severed but still we could fall foul of FFP.
 
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Does that mean...that the 17 million loss contains the 20 mill. FFP fine. But we only(only!) have to pay 4.7mill of it...and can carry the rest over ( I know that FFP fine also doesn't contribute to future FFP calculations).
You can see I still don't understand

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qprbeth said:
Does that mean...that the 17 million loss contains the 20 mill. FFP fine. But we only(only!) have to pay 4.7mill of it...and can carry the rest over ( I know that FFP fine also doesn't contribute to future FFP calculations).
You can see I still don't understand

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Unfortunately Beth No.....the loss was £37m before FFP £20m is taken off, only the £17m counts towards FFP limits......we paid a first installment of £4.7m in these accounts and the balance is paid over 8 years roughly £1.9m per annum.......
 
qprbeth said:
Does that mean...that the 17 million loss contains the 20 mill. FFP fine. But we only(only!) have to pay 4.7mill of it...and can carry the rest over ( I know that FFP fine also doesn't contribute to future FFP calculations).
You can see I still don't understand

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Beth I have just posted some of the tweets I don't claim to know until I read the info.
 
So we can only make a 7 million pound loss next season....and we have no parachute money at all.
We had a little this year.


So next year is going to be very hard.
We better win the cup this year..then

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qprbeth said:
So we can only make a 7 million pound loss next season....and we have no parachute money at all.
We had a little this year.


So next year is going to be very hard.
We better win the cup this year..then

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Freeman and Eze gone in the summer!
 
qprbeth said:
So we can only make a 7 million pound loss next season....and we have no parachute money at all.
We had a little this year.


So next year is going to be very hard.
We better win the cup this year..then

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Ciarrai_Abu said:
Freeman and Eze gone in the summer!
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Parachute payment around £9m this year so we need at least that amount from sales just to plug that hole next year, £10m for both Freeman & Eze will help!!!!!!!
 
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