I haven’t much to moan about Stanies Post Brexit as you say won’t be any different than today for many. I still think it’s wrong to leave Europe for the many reasons quoted by me and others. But I have always accepted it what I don’t accept is the blame culture directed towards the EU when imo the UK did itself in and of course I have very faith in a collective UK anymore The debates on here are nothing but a tiny spec but it’s enjoyable and great exhaust and entertainment
Diesel is diesel anywhere in the world so don’t buy that crap reported I will guess we will all take different sides on every future similar story
No offence taken. But don't confuse asking questions which go unanswered with my making personal jibes - it might just be simpler in future if you answer direct questions without repetition, deflection or evasion. As for the rest of your post I agree with the following explanatory comments. It has not helped having a prime minister who can't negotiate and a Parliament that cannot reach a consensus. The EU are constantly searching for weaknesses it can exploit. Both sides have and do in any arms length negotiation. It's not the EU's fault that the UK side's weakness has been manifest from the start nor is it due to EU corruption and bullying. They always had the better hand because the existing treaties and agreements freely negotiated gave them the cards with which to protect themselves in the unlikely event that any member country wished to change its mind and leave for good. Parliament has to hold its nerve to get the best deal. Agreed. However that does not mean reversing its decision to go for a NO DEAL if TM fails to get any change in position and the last vote tells us pretty clearly that they will not do so. I will not be waiting until 4 or 5 in the morning for the EU to cave in and once the decision has been made both Tories and Labour should give their elected MPs the freedom to vote according their own conscience and not in pursuance of party loyalty. We all want as few adverse consequences as possible and that means for all of us having to settle for less than we would have wanted.
The decision to take production back to Japan from Sunderland clearly has a number of factors. But I suspect you are 100% correct. It would be wrong to say that the decline in diesel fortunes is the only factor because that would lead to the whole project being cancelled or the engines being replaced with any variety of petrol, electric or hybrid engines instead. No reason at all why the car could not be built in Sunderland with such modifications. As we are all coming at it from polarised positions at the moment it is very easy to fall into the trap of identifying one single factor for such decisions. However the isolation of the UK from the European markets cannot simply be glossed over (as Brexiteers have done repeatedly) as if it is nothing to worry about.
Makes me laugh all the project fear re Nissan blaming Brexit yet practically all the experts have said differently. It snowed here on Friday should I forget blaming the weather and just blame Brexit?
I don't believe that Brexit was the significant driver of this, otherwise they could have just switched the production to an EU site, rather than to Japan. I think it is more likely that with the anti-diesel laws in Europe, they will be selling the vast majority (if not all) of the x-trail production away from Europe. Logistically it makes much more sense to produce there.
You may need to prepare yourself for a no deal. We are heading that way unless the EU make concessions on the backstop. Even Corbyn is now saying that the indefinite nature of the backstop is an issue that needs to be addressed. You may settle for less - at the end of the day, for all the Spelman non-binding vote of wishes, I'm not sure Parliament will. We'll see.
Got 2 points - first is the current position in DK amongst Industry leaders, second is about forced repatriation as a result of Bexit. Would like to provide you some insight from Danish Industry and Danish Maritime Authority - For the past few months it has started to prepare for the now accepted very real potential of a No Deal. I have only recently been brought in as an "Industry expert" but it really does seem to have caught everyone on the hop - a No Deal was never even contemplated. There is now some real concern amongst Dansih Industrialists that the EU has gone too far - a recent conference attended by some other EU country officials ended in quite a heated "debate" - Lithuanian and Slovakian representatives were most definitely shot down when they suggested a hard line against the UK. Major DK companies such as DFDS, DSV, Danish Crown, Maersk, Grundfos, Danfoss etc. are expecting difficulties in the supply chain now which will hamper the just in time set ups. There are likely to be an aggregate of job losses in DK due to Brexit to approx 7-8,000. Not alot in UK terms but there is a population here of only 5.5M. I'm actually very surprised that the British media hasn't got itself directly to places such as DK, NL, SWE, BEL etc. to gauge the "real opinion" - have asked as to my own position here and the response made me think: " You own properties here in DK, you have lived here for 15 years, you have a position of some importance that is a net gain to the Country. You are also employed by the local council in a position as Sports Teacher - you are a regular lecturer at Copenhagen Business School - How are we going to compensate you, to force you to leave?" Got me thinking - I sold my house in London in 2008 to a Polish family - would immagine that's gone up in value since then and they're still the owners, who is going to recompense them and so many others to leave? The more I find out and am a part from DK side- the more that I see this is an incredible clusterfuck. I do not support Capital punshment but we surely must have something up our sleeves for Cameron? Forget the back stop, there are plenty of other more important factors to come out that haven't even been thought about. All the EU and UK politicians have been utter ****wits, both sides are sleepwalking into this. Maybe, just maybe this was needed after all and we might end up with something more representative of the people of Europe. ALL on both sides can have a slightly lesser punishment than Cameron. Good luck - we may all need it after all. N.B - DFDS were extremely grateful to receive a Multi, Multi Million Pound contract from the UK to ensure laying on additional Ferries in the event of a No Deal - on full rate terms. Just a week after DFDS publicly stated that it was in effect ****ting itself for the downturn of a Brexit. How not to negotiate - Part One - The UK really does have some Dicks in the Civil Service!!
That maybe correct, but their Chairman still said in his letter that Brexit uncertainty was making it difficult for Companies like his to plan. Otherwise those Plans for Nissan, Sunderland could have included production of non- diesel vehicles. Nissan have always said that the reason they were in Sunderland was because the UK was in the EU with seemless tariff free movement of goods and people.
Interesting insight into the industrial side, Danish. I'm sure commerce will have its voice heard across Europe before May 29. On citizenship, EU citizens will have the right to apply for settled status in the UK (at no charge), so your Polish housebuyer should be fine. As for you, the EU have not agreed reciprocal arrangements as I'm sure you know. Some hardliners, like the Monster Selmayr, appear to want to keep you as a bargaining chip. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...rights-uk-deal-eu-guy-verhofstadt-sajid-javid
Yes that lovely union that so many love are showing their true colours and yet will still have a few fanatics that support them. Using people as a bargaining chip is disgusting and proves how Low they will go. Bring on 29th March!
Well one is a pending downturn in industry in an area with a fragile economic future and the other thing is a man somehow trying to brush off his self obsession with a look at his local weather
Stating that European people are cowards is imo also disgusting... are you a fanatic? Or just a nationalist who moans a lot and has no plans or suggestions for the country post Brexit?
Forgive me if I’m wrong but isn’t the Nissan announcement only concerning the diesel powered ‘x-trail’ ?? I can’t see anything that says their production of other non-diesel cars is now not gonna happen in Sunderland. As I say, I might be incorrect in my understanding. NB. This was part of the statement ..... "We appreciate this will be disappointing for our UK team and partners. Our workforce in Sunderland has our full confidence, and will continue to benefit from the investment planned for Juke and Qashqai."
You should have heard the ecomonic analyst on Sky today blowing apart the connection with Brexit. He was talking about the trade deal that has been signed with Japan and how they will save money by making it in Japan. He went on about new German cars going to Japan. He also discussed the diesel problems.
