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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Applause for Crystal Palace, who are opening a lounge in the stand for homeless people when the temperature drops below freezing. Beds for ten, a hot meal, breakfast and showers. Eight people used the facility on Thursday.

    Of course it’s a shame this is necessary. Actually it’s a ****ing disgrace. But I’m all in favour of doing what you can, with the resources available to you, when you see something that isn’t right, in addition to simply whining about it (whining is a part of getting change though).

    So good for Palace.
     
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  2. Uber_Hoop

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    Anything to double their gate, I s’pose...
     
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  3. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    No! <yikes>
     
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  4. Goldhawk-Road

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    If Farage made himself available to UKIP, I think they'd take him back in a heat beat. Much depends on May. If she turns against the ERG, there will be 80 + Tory MP's looking for a new home.
     
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    Control over immigration was one reason, so that the UK could determine who we wanted. There have been some great EU immigrants - there have also been criminals and spongers. And UK companies were more than happy to take cheap labour from Eastern Europe to undercut the UK market - good for rich businessman, hard on the UK worker.

    The Leave vote was not just about money. It was about identity, community, borders and security. Sovereignty covers all of those.
     
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    I'm happy as long as they don't use my parking space...:grin:
     
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  7. Stroller

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    Anyone else find it ironic that May's plan is to keep holding votes on the same thing until she gets the result she wants?
     
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  8. <laugh> can't say it had crossed my mind......
     
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    pbs.twimg.com_media_DxQ7QLVWwAAXdPc.jpg
     
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  10. ELLERS

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    TBH I don't know what the FFFF she is doing. Her deal will never change with the EU because it would break their rules; I can't see. It won't get through the Commons unless she blackmails all the MP's with no deal/no Brexit.
    I think it will come down to her threatening a GE which neither party wants. Tories because they would lose seats. Labour because they would be in a pickle over Brexit. Plus Corbyn doesn't want to have to deal with the mess we are in.
    I see Brexit killing democracy. it takes 600 MP's to cock up what 17.4M people voted for. Shocking really.
     
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  11. Sooperhoop

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    The trouble with 'consultation' is it is an excuse for those that have the power to say they've 'engaged' with all sides and then totally ignore the 'concerns' raised. Local councils are past masters of consultation that is an exercise in box-ticking. May is simply playing the game as are all the others, they're politicians which I think is a suitable euphemism for 'c*nts'...
     
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    Correct re time periods ... selective thinking

    What the nation voted for then and what we feel now is a concept that Brexiteers totally ignore
    They still think in the past regarding all things British when will the British public understand the power of now
     
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  15. DT’s Socks

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    Agreed she doesn’t give out anything that wouldn’t make the man on the street dispair
    Labour are still extremely weak but the ethics especially with JC are at least sound

    Bloke at least sticks to his beliefs and does the job in the right way ... remember Labour used to be fake Tory anyway . Admire his stance also over joining in with May’s current rubbish... she should of been cast out weeks ago

    Lack of real people in UK politics anyway
     
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  16. kiwiqpr

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    Votes every week
    Can't wait
     
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    Some rather unpleasant scenes in Washington yesterday when a bunch of teenagers wearing MAGA hats confronted a group of elderly Native Americans on an Indigenous People's March. The brats in the hats were chanting 'Build The Wall', the irony of which was seemingly lost on them.
     
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    What kind of respect are they teaching at Catholic schools ?
    A disgrace
     
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  19. All the more ironic given that the majority of people who would be kept out of the US by the wall are actually, ahem, Catholics <doh>
     
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    To be fair as Stroller says, I think any irony would be completely lost on the little scumbags......the video of the old fella being totally calm and chanting in the face of such abuse actually got me very emotional....both anger and sadness.
     
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