https://www.sunderlandecho.com/spor...pproach-to-future-contract-renewals-1-9525305 Bit about maja in there, but for me the important bit is how we plan to handle youth contracts in the future. (Sorry, can't copy paste the article on my phone)
Here you go: Stewart Donald on Josh Maja talks and how it will change Sunderland's approach to future contract renewals Stewart Donald says that Josh Maja has been given time to think and talk through his options with his family. The Sunderland chairman, in a typically candid interview with Roker Report, opened up on his frustrations with the negotiation process. He said Maja's agent had turned up late for one meeting with Richard Hill and not turned up at all for one meeting with Donald himself. The situation came to a head last week when a deadline for Maja to commit passed without resolution. Donald remains hopeful that Maja will stay and revealed that he met with the 20-year-old on Monday, who again reiterated his desire to stay at the club. Stewart Donald says Josh Maja still wants to extend his Sunderland career beyond the summer While unhappy with how much of the talks had played out, Donald admitted that was 'scenery' and said the most important thing is getting a resolution both for the player and the club. He told Roker Report: "Josh is one player and we don’t want that derailing us at the most important time of the season, so we need a resolution. "So I said I would come and see him today, he’s a lovely lad, very easy to talk to, he wants to sign for Sunderland but he also values the advice of his agent. "So he wants to talk it through with his agent. "What matters is, not ruining out team spirit, not ruining what we’re trying to build, creating a culture whereby everybody wants to be here for all the right reasons," Donald added. "We treat people with the right level of respect and Josh Maja has done that as well. "The ball is in his court, he has said he wants to sign, he wants to talk to his family and he’s going to tell us once he talks to his family what he wants to do. Sunderland closing in on loan deal for highly-rated Irish defender Jimmy Dunne "We’ve given him a couple of days grace on that." Crucially, Donald said that the talks will force a change in the club's approach to dealing with contract renewals. He was critical of the deals he inherited and said that he would ensure the Black Cats are never left in this position again. "The contracts that we inherited are ridiculous from the football club's perspective," he said. "Think about it logically, these lads sign two or three-year deals in our academy. "Common sense tells you in the first two years he'll be learning his way, and then in the last year he's got a chance of breaking through. "Surely, we should protect ourselves with extensions by saying, if Josh Maja or Lynden Gooch make five or ten first team appearances, we get an extra year with a higher wage. "At the moment, a player gets in the first team and then there's a value to them, and we've got no protection. "It will not happen in the future. I'm not doing this every six or 12 months. "What we should do is say to a Josh Maja, if you play five games we get an extra year and you get double your wage, or if you play 20 it doubles again and we get another year, etc. "Then we're protected. "I'll give a commitment to Sunderland fans now. We may lose one or two but we won't have this in future. "We'll be fair to the player but we'll be fair to ourselves. "It is basic common sense."
Didn't know it was common to make contracts like that but it's a sensible way to make sure the club is protected and the player is motivated.
Sounds like SD has it worked out, shame no one else previously could see it coming, even though the warning signs were there long ago. Did they care ? I dont think so. On another tack, I heard it said that of our last 40 comings and goings in the transfer market we have lost money on all but 3. I dont know if this is an accurate assesment, but going on memory alone it does not sound too unrealistic.
Can;t be far from the truth I doubt. Henderson, Mignolet were both profitable. can't remember many more!!
Not sure about Wickham - bought for £8.1m. and sold for £7m iirc fee rising to £9m on appearances. Forgot about Bent so he'll be the other!!
Can't be Henderson because he was an academy product. We never technically bought him. I'm sure we made a profit on Wickham because we were all shocked at the time. £12m rising to £14m IIRC
Academy players are not included in the list, its specific to players purchased and then sold on mostly at a huge loss, highlighting just how bad our dealings have been, no surprise as you say but shameful all the same. Mig as you say is one of the few I can recall, there must be others but I cant think of any off hand.
Looking online and it was "undisclosed" when he went to pacace - Wikipedia and a couple of others says £7m rising to £9m and Transfer market says £10m but also says we bought him for £10m. True about Henderson - but the comment on Clockstanders post was about "Comings and goings" which Hendo was one of the goings Edit - @clockstander posted his above whilst I was typing this - so Hendo not included - trying to think who it may be - Bent, Mignolet How much did we pay for Gyan?
I think that's just the way he's phrased it though. I think he means any player we've bought for cash and then sold on. (That's how I read it anyway). By your thinking you could include other youngsters such as Waghorn (if we got a fee for him) and Asoro and any others. I've just found it. It's James McClean who's the third one!!
Thanks mate, you read me well, i had just thought of Mclean,but had forgot about PVA., and I see you have traced the source of the story, I only heard it on the bus, eavesdropping, but thought it worth posting, its a great way to get confirmation.
