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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

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  1. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Ireland may seek aid, as border issue stalls Brexit deal
    By Eszter Zalan
    BRUSSELS, 3. Jan, 09:18
    Dublin will seek hundreds of millions of euros in emergency aid from Brussels if the UK crashes out of the EU in March without a deal, the Irish Independent reported on Thursday (3 January).
    Irish officials have told the EU Commission that Ireland will be lobbying for aid to cope with the fallout to Irish trade, particularly in the beef, dairy and fishing sectors, the paper said.
    If a no-deal Brexit happens, Ireland will be making the case for a major aid injection, agriculture minister Michael Creed told the Irish Independent.
    "You're looking at hundreds of millions here. Between the beef industry and the fishing industry we're talking mega-money," he said.
    Last year former WTO director general and EU trade commissioner, Pascal Lamy warned that Ireland may need emergency aid in the event of a no deal.
    The Irish border issue remains at the heart of the stalled Brexit deal that British prime minister Theresa May will struggle this month to get ratified in the House of Commons.
    That draft Brexit agreement would set out a transition period until the end of 2020 with a one-time possibility of extending it.
    It also plans to keep the UK aligned with the EU's customs union if no deal is reached on future relations by the end of the transition period.
    However, hardline Brexiteers reject this draft agreement, saying this so-called backstop solution could keep the UK tied to the EU for decades - something EU leaders have ruled out.
    May plans a vote on the deal in the UK parliament in the second week of January, with Brexit only 12 weeks away.
    She is expected to speak to EU leaders this week, including Dutch prime minister Mark Rutte, German chancellor Angela Merkel and European Council president Donald Tusk, the Financial Times reported on Wednesday (2 January).
    May is seeking assurances that the so-called backstop, aimed at avoiding a hard Irish border, will be time-limited.
    May has already tried to get some kind of guarantee that keeping the UK aligned with the EU customs union would be time-limited, but EU leaders ruled that out arguing the backstop is an insurance policy to keeping the border open, and cannot be time-limited.
    However, at a summit last month EU leaders did issue a 'political statement' pledging that the backstop would be strictly temporary, and they would work for a deal on the future relations swiftly.
    Foreign secretary Jeremy Hunt nevertheless told an audience in Singapore on Wednesday that May will find a way to get her Brexit deal approved by the British parliament.
    "When Theresa May comes back with those reassurances that she has been seeking from the EU that the deal that is on the table is not going to lead to us being permanently trapped in the customs union ... she will find a way to get this deal through parliament," Hunt said.
    On the possibility of a second referendum on the deal, Hunt claimed it would be damaging to democracy.
    Border troubles
    If no agreement is reached with the EU on the UK withdrawal, the EU and Ireland will have to come up with ideas on how to secure the border on the island of Ireland, which would become the EU's new external frontier.
    The UK and the EU pledged to avoid a hard border to maintain peace on the island, but without a withdrawal agreement, Ireland would need to secure that the EU's internal market is intact and the Irish border does not become a backdoor into the EU market without control and regulation.
    EU officials have so far refused to speculate how Ireland would be able to secure the border without a deal, but insisted that the political responsibility would lie with the UK if a hard border on the island needs to be established.
    Preparations are underway in Ireland too for a possible no-deal Brexit, with hundreds of plant and animal health inspectors for Dublin Port and airport, as well as Rosslare Port, being hired.
    Minister Creed said there would however be no checks on farm produce along the border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland.
    The UK's former Brexit minister David Davis said in the meantime that May should delay the vote on her Brexit deal, he argued in an opinion essay published on Wednesday.
    "The more we prepare to leave the EU without a deal, the more likely a good deal becomes," Davis said in an opinion piece in the Telegraph newspaper, arguing that the EU is worried about losing the UK's contribution to the EU budget.
    EU leaders have said repeatedly that they are not willing to renegotiate the Brexit deal reached on a technical level last November
     
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  2. kiwiqpr

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    more protests in france
     
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    given somewhere to live

    i thought there was a shortage and there was thousands of homeless
     
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    Not only does he have the most inappropriate name imaginable he's also totally barking...

     
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    mmm let's see how united they are with Ireland when they want money from Brussels? It will be "Ireland who"?
     
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    He's just pulled the flag out of that skip...
     
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    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    You mean out of his arse.
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    as they have travelled this far in a rubber dingey
    should we let them stay
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    project fear

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    who are we meant to trust

    the nhs or gary linekar
     
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    Quite Possibly Raving Well-Known Member

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    Whichever source confirms our own biases, no?
     
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    The really scary development is Project 'No-Deal Will Be Fine'. These people know full well how damaging it would be, but lie through their teeth. They are truly the enemy within
     
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    Stroller you are talking a load of "project rubbish" . :emoticon-0100-smile You know fully that it won't get to a 'No deal'. I see it being extended for 6 months/year and we can all bore ourselves even more. And remember, this is only the divorce! We have deals after that. <doh> I am going into hiding for a bit. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Neil Hamilton AC/AM‏Verified account@NeilUKIP 21h21 hours ago
    "Brexit could cause a short supply of...

    *opens yellow pages randomly*

    ...gardeners."
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    Gardeners could be in short supply after Brexit, warn MPs and peers
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    Rebecca Pow MP
    • Christopher Hope
    2 January 2019 • 9:30 PM
    Gardeners could be in short supply after Brexit unless they are included in official immigration quotas, a cross-party group of MPs and peers is warning.
    The All-Party Gardening and Horticulture Group is calling on the Home Office to include “ornamental horticulture” in its new seasonal workers scheme.
     
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    We don’t hear enough from the All Party Gardening and Horticulture Group these days.
     
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    Quite right too. I'm sure anyone who has seen the footage will agree.
     
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