Agreed. When he left L'pool I considered him just another merc. Comes across as a bit arrogant. But down the years I've detested players like Thatcher, O'hara, Nolan, Diof-the spitter. Those guys really give the crowd a reason to go loud. (top of my head)
In the company of men, I like a good swear. But this modern age we live has so much unnecessary sweating. Television seems to have no restrictions now. W, C, an abundance of F. Christ, it wasn't that long ago there was none. I feel sorry for the children, why should they grow up with this been the norm.
I think other things are much more damaging to children than swearing. Always makes me laugh that they can't play the word 'bitch' on radio, let's face it kids all know these words anyway n know they're wrong, but it's perfectly acceptable to play a song that is all about 'feeling sexual' and contains the lyrics 'lets get sexual'. I think the stigma around swearing is slowly eroding, most people won't give a **** in 30 years or so. At the end of the day, kids will know all swear words by the age ten anyway I really don't think them hearing certain words are that damaging, in comparison to other things at least.
I agree with you TLL on children picking up swear words young.......but I remember the little girl from the ice bucket challenge and what came out of her mouth at the age of 3 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ng-doing-ice-bucket-challenge-goes-viral.html
So at what age would you feel comfortable with your little one swearing in your presence? How about telling your mum to f*off. What age should that be okay? Because the more you make it the norm, the more normal it will become.
Good points, will try and respond properly later HR as jusy leaving work n picking up my boy for a bit funnily enough. Must teach him lovren song
I am 48 and haven't and will not ever tell my mum to F off ........I have to much respect for her ....plus even though she is 75 she will still clip me round the ear
My family swear at each other all the time ( not in front of the kids evidently, but accidents do happen). On the whole it’s all good natured banter, and no harm is ever meant ,it’s just the way we are, our house couldn’t survive without the non stop piss taking. Arguments are different when they happen and ovbiously the “bad” words get used but again it’s just the way we are.
My son separated from his partner, probably about a year ago. They have a son, my grandson, who is eight. He has two vocabularies. One with his mum, where he speaks as she does, which is effing and blinding, and one with his dad where he speaks without expletives, and when he does let one slip out, it is quickly followed by a “Sorry daddy”. My son has worked very hard to get my grandson to understand that using expletives isn’t something that everyone likes, and I am so proud of him for persisting in doing this, especially as he only has him for two days a week. Swearing is a personal choice and, tbh, I use language at work I wouldn’t use at home or in front of strangers or children.
Your first question is an interesting one and something I haven't really considered, and after a bit of doing so I still can't really find a definitive answer. Though something tells me that even if I could pick an age it would end up being lower. For me, teaching kids not to swear is less about swearing being bad and more about teaching respect. I never have (and never will) swear in front of my nan. My mum I do so occasionally but not words like **** obviously. The old man I talk to like I would mates (when we have a drink). I'm quite a sweary person but it's also habitual, I remember when my lad first started copying phrases so I had to completely stop which was easier than I though. As soon as I answered the phone to a pal though... Agree that the more you normalise things then it becomes the norm, I just think it's not as stigmatised as it once was and will continue to go in that direction. And just to clarify I'm not saying it's not a bad thing just that there's things out there much more harmful imo like the example I've given.
Swearing for me is all about context. I can use the C word as the ultimate affection and the ultimate cuss. It just depends. I wouldn’t swear in front of young children, and respect is hugely important, but as the became teens etc I wouldn’t dress it up as the most important thing either. As long as they are sorted generally, the odd contextual F is hardly an issue.
