Hughes Out.

[Lovelocum]

So Hughes can concentrate on the league. What do we think? Loss to spurs and Utd and he must go?

 

[ihatemyselfandwanttodie]

and bringing In Aaron Ramsey! Okay I'll wake up now.

Ew

 

[Toss saints]

SKD would be a bigger gamble than Stuart Gray and Steve Wigley were IMO.

But they worked out well!!!!!

 

[Pelletron]

I don't expect Brendan to be there too much longer. It's much harder for Celtic to make the Champions League group stages now with the new format, so he's not going to achieve anything new. But we'd probably have to wait until the end of the season to buy him.

Yes, he needs some new experiences - humiliation, relegation. All achievable at Saints.

 

[Pelletron]

If it was any other club I would say it's the dreaded vote of confidence but with us it could mean sticking until January...

Weren't you a Hughes apologist a few months ago? The tide has truly turned now - the club were utterly naive in giving Hughes a three year contract. The fact that that is an issue in whether we hold on to him a bit longer is enough to say we deserve relegation. Just idiotic decision-making - day after the last day of last season was clearly the moment we should have said our goodbyes. At least it cost Les his job - someone had to be accountable.

 

[Craig smith]

I’m afraid the earliest you’ll see Hughes depart will be if we lose to Cardiff.
No one within the club is going to be expecting us to get anything against Man Utd or Tottenham.
But this isn’t a here and now situation, this has been building for years, but now Reed has been given the Spanish archer and hopefully Ralph the mouth soon follows we can get back to something like playing some sort of football that might win us a game.
Just my opinion though and could be completely wrong.
Come on Mr Cortese you know you wanna

 

[Craig smith]

Wenger wants to be a Director.......

And I want to be an astronaut

 

[Le Tissier's Laces]

I’m afraid the earliest you’ll see Hughes depart will be if we lose to Cardiff.
No one within the club is going to be expecting us to get anything against Man Utd or Tottenham.
But this isn’t a here and now situation, this has been building for years, but now Reed has been given the Spanish archer and hopefully Ralph the mouth soon follows we can get back to something like playing some sort of football that might win us a game.
Just my opinion though and could be completely wrong.
Come on Mr Cortese you know you wanna

Sadly Nicola won’t be coming back.

 

[Libby]

Weren't you a Hughes apologist a few months ago? The tide has truly turned now - the club were utterly naive in giving Hughes a three year contract. The fact that that is an issue in whether we hold on to him a bit longer is enough to say we deserve relegation. Just idiotic decision-making - day after the last day of last season was clearly the moment we should have said our goodbyes. At least it cost Les his job - someone had to be accountable.

If by 'apologist' you mean wanted to give him a deserved chance then yes.

When we appointed him I think I said on here that I'd love it if we'd have the bottle to let him go even if we stayed up but had changed my mind after getting carried away with our survival.

 

[Archers Road]

I read a comment, by Stan Collymore, about Hughes, which I cannot find to link, but he actually made sense.
Hughes doesn’t actually have a trade mark style, with regards to how his teams play. I suppose, in the past, he got away with disrupting other team’s attacking play, by committing fouls all over the pitch, but in today’s game, where yellow cards can be issued for ridiculously soft fouls he can’t get away with that anymore.
His teams don’t press high, like a Pochettino type team, nor do they defend deeply or with organisation, a la Pulis or Allardyce.

All that was equally true of Koeman - he was a pragmatist, like Hughes, happy to let the system fit the personnel rather than the other way around. Nothing at all wrong with that approach imo. The difference is the results. Koeman was getting them right off the bat, how long do we allow Hughes to try and turn it round?

 

[Archers Road]

SKD would be a bigger gamble than Stuart Gray and Steve Wigley were IMO.

I'd take it though, I really would. But only if he really wanted it (those two didn't, I believe? ).

 

[Saintmagic]

If/When we sack Hughes mid season our only options will be the same as when we appointed him, a journeyman ****house manager who might keep us up. At this point I think it is almost better going down as we are just getting into the same cycle as Sunderland did a few years ago, and that will end up with us going down anyway. May as well just go down and at least try and bring in someone with some forward thinking ideas, very hard to do that in a relegation battle at Xmas.

 

[Archers Road]

Weren't you a Hughes apologist a few months ago? The tide has truly turned now - the club were utterly naive in giving Hughes a three year contract. The fact that that is an issue in whether we hold on to him a bit longer is enough to say we deserve relegation. Just idiotic decision-making - day after the last day of last season was clearly the moment we should have said our goodbyes. At least it cost Les his job - someone had to be accountable.

He earned his contract. It hasn't worked out, but he deserved the chance to manage us going forward. Now things have changed, fair enough, but appointing him was only a mistake in hindsight.

 

[sotonsaint]

I'd take it though, I really would. But only if he really wanted it (those two didn't, I believe? ).

Kelvin is such a top bloke I wouldn’t want him being put in charge of this mess that has been created by others which would cause him to fail through no fault of his own. I’d rather sit and watch Hughes continue to **** things up , leave SKD out of it.

 

[Libby]

If/When we sack Hughes mid season our only options will be the same as when we appointed him, a journeyman ****house manager who might keep us up. At this point I think it is almost better going down as we are just getting into the same cycle as Sunderland did a few years ago, and that will end up with us going down anyway. May as well just go down and at least try and bring in someone with some forward thinking ideas, very hard to do that in a relegation battle at Xmas.

Watford managed it last year.

 

[fran-MLs little camera]

If/When we sack Hughes mid season our only options will be the same as when we appointed him, a journeyman ****house manager who might keep us up. At this point I think it is almost better going down as we are just getting into the same cycle as Sunderland did a few years ago, and that will end up with us going down anyway. May as well just go down and at least try and bring in someone with some forward thinking ideas, very hard to do that in a relegation battle at Xmas.

Have never supported the 'better to go down' theory....it can be bloody hard to get back up and you could slide through into League 1 with the financial complications that that entails. I'm sure there are examples out there of teams that struggled for a few years in the EPL and then came good as things fell into place. And if it is hard to get a good manager for an EPL side....how can it be easier for a Championship side.

 

[Archers Road]

Kelvin is such a top bloke I wouldn’t want him being put in charge of this mess that has been created by others which would cause him to fail through no fault of his own. I’d rather sit and watch Hughes continue to **** things up , leave SKD out of it.

That's why I said only appoint Kelvin if he really wanted it. I wouldn't want him hung out to dry, like we did with Gray and Wigley.

I'd love to see us give him a chance, at least from now until January. When does the transfer window open, Jan 1st? Give him from now til then

 

[Libby]

That's why I said only appoint Kelvin if he really wanted it. I wouldn't want him hung out to dry, like we did with Gray and Wigley.

I'd love to see us give him a chance, at least from now until January. When does the transfer window open, Jan 1st? Give him from now til then

I could get on board with that.

 

[Giboman]

Nige, there is a bus outside your front door. Come back and cheer us up.... You would undoubtedly be better than the current and previous joker!

 

[Osvaldorama]

Have never supported the 'better to go down' theory....it can be bloody hard to get back up and you could slide through into League 1 with the financial complications that that entails. I'm sure there are examples out there of teams that struggled for a few years in the EPL and then came good as things fell into place. And if it is hard to get a good manager for an EPL side....how can it be easier for a Championship side.

This, this, this.

If we go down it is an utter disaster. We have to throw the kitchen sink at staying in this league.