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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    The £350 mil that was promised was not due to start until we had paid our wait out of the EU was my understanding.
     
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    The government pretty much immediately debunked the claim and said it was going on other things as soon as the referendum was finished. (Some might go on the NHS but not all)

    It was one if those claiming it could go on this but it won't necessarily claims. In my mind It's come to represent the way the leave campaign spent that same money on 100 different things because there was no unified plan so everyone could believe they would get money spent on what they wanted it to be spent on.
     
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  3. Onionman

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    Anyone interested in the Brexit Leave vote murky funding questions could do worse than subscribe to this podcast: First edition came out over the weekend. Quite light and easy to listen to.

    I loved the dropped in factoid that Aaron Banks admitted he met the Russian ambassador once. Then he admitted twice. No, hang on... it was multiple times.

    It's here and available on most podcast feeds. https://dialmformueller.com/

    Vin
     
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  4. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    Off the top of my head, since Trump has been President he's insulted: (in no particular order)

    Women
    Black Americans
    Africa
    South America
    Muslims
    Palestinians
    Puerto Rico
    Democrats
    Republicans
    All previous Presidents
    The UK
    France
    Germany
    Iran
    Canada
    Journalists
    Veterans
    Pakistan
    China
    US forest management

    bit ambiguous about North Korea

    loves

    Russia
    Scandinavia
    Israel

    not sure where he stands on Slovenia
     
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  5. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    I'll have a house on the moon before the NHS sees a penny of that money, is my understanding.
     
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  6. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    I would have accepted mars rather than the moon.....<laugh>
     
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  7. thereisonlyoneno7

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    Screenshot 2018-11-19 at 20.46.19.png

    For those that were worried Gibraltar had suddenly broken away and is an island :)


    (Sorry, couldn't resist)
     
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  8. VocalMinority

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    look at all those blocks and colour distortions. clearly been photoshopped. fake news. <whistle>
     
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  9. The Ides of March

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    Sinn Fein and the UK´s former Conservative party also opposed the Lisbon Treaty. Who would have thought of these two parties being bedfellows?
     
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    Beddy, when you say “we” ..... were you there? <laugh>
     
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  11. Beddy

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    Thanks a bloody bunch fats.....?... That’s even worse than when my grand kids say what did you do in the war Granddad?.....<laugh>
     
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    The smart ones would come back and say, “Not that War Grandad, the one before.” :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  13. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    Oh bloody ha ha......... you know I’ll get you back......<laugh>
     
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  14. ImpSaint

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    You are a lot more assured it will be implemented than most leavers are. They didn't expect to win because they thought it would be rigged. They could not understand the polling numbers being so far in favour of remain. Even when leave won they had that niggle that it would be fudged and at the moment they are even more sure it will be fudged.

    No need for another vote. They are trying to BRINO and pass it off as BREXIT and we might yet end up with the second vote scenario anyway..........which is exactly what they all planned (May and her lot included) when they started out on the process the day after the referendum.
     
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    Is that a runway or a zip?
     
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  16. Beddy

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    Just to make clear........someone said earlier that the Island (as it is known although granted it is an isthmus) ...........Says it has only been British for 200 years. I asked when under those circumstances could the "island" be called British?
    In fact the island was signed over to the British by the Spanish in 1713 with a treaty.......over 300 years ago. Also the "Island" Was given the opportunity to change its status more recently. A local referendum was carried out more recently and although there is actually a fair few Spanish living there they voted by a majority of over 96% to remain a British "island" So I really do think it is British would you not agree.......?
    Isn't that similar to the Falkland Islands, which we took back...? Its strange isn't it........Gibraltar was never a problem to the Spanish until suddenly it had some real value. Same with the Falklands perhaps. Then they want it back......Get stuffed Spain. It will be worse for you guys if we completely go out of the union trust me........

    Edit I wasn't inferring the Falklands were Spanish by the way.
     
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  17. The Ides of March

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    I feel they were Spanish until signed over to the British, but it was some years before Argentina came into existence.

    For what it is worth, wouldn´t it be adult if one these two scenarios were to happen.
    1) UK and Argentina have joint sovereignty over the Falklands/Las Malvinas and not allow any oil companies to seek oil there.
    2) These islands become a UNESCO heritage site either under UN stewarship, or UK. A mature country would come to a mature decisión. I am not sure the UK is a mature country any more.

    As for Gibraltar, I feel they should stand up on their own two feet and seek Independence from the UK. If Andorra can do it, so can Gibraltar. After all, they have no representation in the Houses of Parliament, so decisions taken there do not have the interests of the Gibraltarians in mind.
     
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  18. Onionman

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    Good news. Under pressure, the government will publish an assessment of the effect on the economy of remaining, May's deal and No Deal respectively before MPs vote on the matter.

    My prediction: The cat will be well and truly amongst the pigeons at that point and the move for a vote on the deal will become irresistible. I may be wrong, of course.

    I also predict that the ERG will accuse the civil service of bias. That one I will not be wrong on.

    Vin
     
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  19. Beddy

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    To be honest me being the sceptic I am.......I’m beginning to think that a lot of what is going on is a smoke screen. All main party’s were for remaining. I’m beginning to think that TM and co in fact may just be going through the motions of trying to get a deal knowing that what ever is agreed is not going to get through parliament. Therefore deciding not to go with the referendum result and just decide to stay. Nah that can’t be right can it? I’m getting very suspicious though......something ain’t right.........
    Got a huge gutt feeling that the remain camp are going to get their way!
     
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  20. San Tejón

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    Can the ERG accuse anyone of bias, or making the figures look bad, when their own chairman, ol’ Moggy, has said it could be up to fifty years before the U.K. feels the benefit of Brexit?
    He has actually already made the point that Brexit is bad, despite fighting for it to take place.
     
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