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ps The Tories haven been 'raping' workers' rights for years and the EU has done **** all to stop them. In fact, wasn't it the EU who forced the government to privatise Royal Mail?

And I hate to tell you this but TTIP is still on the table. We've no idea what's in it (but the general consensus is that it is very bad) because the EU wont allow the public to see what's in it.

"...elected representatives may only view the texts in a secure "reading room" in Brussels, to avoid any further leaks of information about TTIP negotiations into the public domain."

That's yer wonderfully democratic EU that none of yer pro-EU commentators want to talk about.
 
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F*ck Off Ponders said:
We've already seen evidence of wages rising as fewer EU migrants arrive in the country:

https://moneyweek.com/497817/britains-wages-are-rising-and-about-time-too/

I voted remain and would probably do so again if there was another referendum but having campaigned during the 2014 Indy referendum I take the end-of-the-world predictions with a pinch of salt. Ironically, one of the things we were threatened with if we voted Yes was that we'd get kicked out of the EU. Well, that worked out well, didn't it?

I suspect it will be bad for a few years, but not as bad as the usual shrieking Guardian columnists say it will, and then things will settle and then start to improve.
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There aren't any 'end-of-the-world' predictions, on Guardian or elsewhere. All everyone is saying is that things will be ****ed for ages after Brexit, and we'll probably never reach the comfort of the pre-2008 crash again. Your article is from a 3-month sample ffs, and the only reason why people aren't coming here is that the £ is worth 25% less and they know this country is full of racist mongs. Also we're still in the EU, let's have this chat in a year's time to see how peoples' wages are improving?
 
Odious Turd said:
Toby don’t worry ffs.

Your life will be the same.

You’ll go to work every day
You’ll smoke a few joints and eat pizza every night
You’ll get **** faced at the weekend and shag Olga.

What’s the worry?
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Cost of living increasing?
Job security?
Living in a country run by unchecked Tories?
Public spending being slashed?
Increased crime?
Increased open racism in the streets?
Environment getting raped?
Workers rights getting raped?
etc...
 
F*ck Off Ponders said:
ps The Tories haven been 'raping' workers' rights for years and the EU has done **** all to stop them. In fact, wasn't it the EU who forced the government to privatise Royal Mail?

And I hate to tell you this but TTIP is still on the table. We've no idea what's in it (but the general consensus is that it is very bad) because the EU wont allow the public to see what's in it.

"...elected representatives may only view the texts in a secure "reading room" in Brussels, to avoid any further leaks of information about TTIP negotiations into the public domain."

That's yer wonderfully democratic EU that none of yer pro-EU commentators want to talk about.
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The EU didn't force the Tories to sell the Royal Mail, where the **** did you get that from? The Tories being 'forced' to sell off public assets <laugh> <laugh>

Which workers rights have the Tories 'raped' without the EU intervening?

TTIP would have to go through a vote by all members of the EU. Last time some village in Belgium interfered with the Canada deal, we would have had a veto on it if the deal wasn't in the UK's favour. If you think TTIP is bad just wait to see what magical unicorn-based deal we'll sign with the US once we leave. PS: most negotiating between governments is done behind closed doors <ok>
 
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Toby said:
Cost of living increasing?
Job security?
Living in a country run by unchecked Tories?
Public spending being slashed?
Increased crime?
Increased open racism in the streets?
Environment getting raped?
Workers rights getting raped?
etc...
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All that **** is inevitable. Brexit doesn’t change it.
 
Toby said:
There aren't any 'end-of-the-world' predictions, on Guardian or elsewhere. All everyone is saying is that things will be ****ed for ages after Brexit, and we'll probably never reach the comfort of the pre-2008 crash again. Your article is from a 3-month sample ffs, and the only reason why people aren't coming here is that the £ is worth 25% less and they know this country is full of racist mongs. Also we're still in the EU, let's have this chat in a year's time to see how peoples' wages are improving?
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I've already said that things will be bad in the short term so what would be the point in having a chat in a year's time?

Don't worry, though. The Tories will be hugely unpopular and out of power by then and Jeremy and his pal Owen Jones will be in power and will be turning Britain into a socialist utopia like Venezuela.
 
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F*ck Off Ponders said:
I've already said that things will be bad in the short term so what would be the point in having a chat in a year's time?

Don't worry, though. The Tories will be hugely unpopular and out of power by then and Jeremy and his pal Owen Jones will be in power and will be turning Britain into a socialist utopia like Venezuela.
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You do realise that Corbyn's plans are politically centre-left? Basically what Scandinavians countries have in place?
 
F*ck Off Ponders said:
I've already said that things will be bad in the short term so what would be the point in having a chat in a year's time?
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Because you claimed that wages were rising thanks to the Brexit vote. We're still in the EU. Let's see how things go if, as it looks at the moment, we leave with no deal.
 
Toby said:
The EU didn't force the Tories to sell the Royal Mail, where the **** did you get that from? The Tories being 'forced' to sell off public assets <laugh> <laugh>

Which workers rights have the Tories 'raped' without the EU intervening?

TTIP would have to go through a vote by all members of the EU. Last time some village in Belgium interfered with the Canada deal, we would have had a veto on it if the deal wasn't in the UK's favour. If you think TTIP is bad just wait to see what magical unicorn-based deal we'll sign with the US once we leave. PS: most negotiating between governments is done behind closed doors <ok>
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The 1997 (97/67/EC) EU Postal Directive, and a second one, adopted in 2002 (2002/39/EC) opened up the Royal Mail to 'competition' which eventually led to its privatisation.
 
F*ck Off Ponders said:
The 1997 (97/67/EC) EU Postal Directive, and a second one, adopted in 2002 (2002/39/EC) opened up the Royal Mail to 'competition' which eventually led to its privatisation.
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How is 'competition' the same as privatising a state asset?
 
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