Match Day Thread West Brom v QPR

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By the way, I sat next to an ex-employee of the club at the cup game the other day. He used to work for the uni that loans Harlington to QPR and then he worked at QPR as a trainer. I forgot his name...

Anyway, he said he met McClaren after the first game of the season and McClaren didn't go on the team coach with the players. He instead went back to London in a chauffer driven car. This guy asked him what message might that send to the players and apparently McClaren's response was "Oh, I like a car."
Some Preston fans said that he travelled back on their train after the match.
 
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All the repeated talk about Holloway, and his achievements, seems to forget all the poor football from last season. The lack of interest from fans at the football we played - who haven’t made their way back to watching us. The bizarre team selections week after week after week. The fact he was pressed into using youngsters (then making it out to be a master stroke).
I’m as mad and frustrated as the next guy about the lack of replacement of experience in the squad and the poor start - which I can’t say I am surprised at (however I don’t accept a 7-1 loss by either the team or the management). But to say Holloway is/was the answer are definitely being selective. He was/is a passionate QPR man, and I thank him for the job he did, but he had done all he could. Something had to be done to try and move forward. But it’s 3 games - it doesn’t look good; but we need to get our heads up and start to perform (and the board and management need to sort a few loans before the end of the month).
I await the end of the loan period now and will be hoping things improve soon.
Did anybody say any of those things? I don't think I did. I'm just saying and others are agreeing that Holloway worked under the same financial constraints as Maclaren. TBF it is only three games so far but it's not good and the clock is ticking.
 
It's not black, it's black-only. It was my impression after being shafted by Harry Redknapp, Tony made a political decision to go with a black manager. May be it was a trust thing, I don't know. It was a fad he had, it narrowed down those available and didn't pay off. Now he's gone back to faded "names" which isn't paying off either. Rather than really assessing the needs and get the best fit for the club (race or colour immaterial)

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There are many ways in which one could read racism in those comments.
 
Comedy timing?

Which timing are we talking about? One thing that cries out for an explanation is how when Holloway's mum passed away TF immediately moved to bring in Maclaren and all at a time when we had seemed to turn a corner, were scoring for fun and had recently outclassed Villa. I remember Holloway being interviewed and defiantly telling the interviewer he was going nowhere. I seem to recall Fernandes making angry tweets sshortly before then expressing his support and appreciation for the job Holloway was doing. Was that all bullshit? Or as usual did the appointment of Maclaren come on the back of Tony making a snap judgment? If the latter, based on what precisely? 8 weeks as part of Redknapp's team when we won seven games by 1-0 and bored the opposition to defeat.

Frankly I don't think I'm being unreasonable in wanting the owners to make decisions which affect the club I support on a bit more than just personal likes, dislikes whims and hunches
 
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Having seen the highlights I have isolated the issue. Our players thought they were in a game of musical statues rather than yer actual soccerball. I’m sure that when SuperMac tells them this all will be fine.

If Ollie is the answer what the **** is the question? I’ve shot myself in the foot now I want to do the same to my head, who can help?

If current results continue we can sack McClaren (if we lose the next one by 5 we probably should immediately) and then get someone else in, but let’s not fool ourselves that it will make that much of a difference. Last time that worked was with Mark Hughes, briefly. We are stuck with this squad and can only fiddle round the edges with loans until next summer. We are stuffed on spending and it gets worse with the end of parachutes next season, unless we want to break the rules again, which is just how we ended up where we are.

My Sunderland mate is really enjoying League One after years of misery in higher leagues. Not the worst thing in the world, though I would prefer to avoid total humiliation on a weekly basis on our journey there. I’ve had that falling out of the PL.
 
Seven years to the day after TF took control of a newly-promoted PL team, untold millions of pounds, a revolving door of managers, a record fine, a f*cking transfer embargo and a team heading for the oblivion of League One shipping seven goals to celebrate the anniversary. We're also seeing our near neighbours on a shoestring budget by comparison playing silky smart football and real contenders for promotion with their new ground under construction. He has royally f*cked things up with one broken promise after another. It's gonna be a long way back...
 
Seven years to the day after TF took control of a newly-promoted PL team, untold millions of pounds, a revolving door of managers, a record fine, a f*cking transfer embargo and a team heading for the oblivion of League One shipping seven goals to celebrate the anniversary. We're also seeing our near neighbours on a shoestring budget by comparison playing silky smart football and real contenders for promotion with their new ground under construction. He has royally f*cked things up with one broken promise after another. It's gonna be a long way back...
Can't disagree with any of that
 
I didn't see yesterday's game, but I suspect (having seen the Sheffield United game) that a least some of our difficulties arose from trying to play out from the back, or playing 'properly' as it is fashionably described. What a heap of **** this is. It's so simple for the opposition to suss what we are doing, press high and wait for the inevitable ****-up. MCCLLLaren (sorry, got confused Uber) must abandon this, in my opinion. Now is not time for smartarse experimentation.
 
I should probably wait for the QPR v Bristol City thread but, to my incredulity, the bookies think we are more likely to win on Tuesday than City.

This 'good news' is tempered by them shortening the odds on us being relegated with only Rotherham, Reading and Ipswich below us.

Three games in and it's squeaky bum time already! (Joke - don't snap at me :emoticon-0100-smile).
 
MCCLLLaren (sorry, got confused Uber)

:) Tres droll. Sorry, Strolls, can’t help myself. I have a fairly unusual surname myself - no I’m not really U Burr - so it just irritates me when people can’t be bothered to learn how to spell their team manager’s name properly.
 
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I’m just pissed off about it, yeah. I’m on holiday in Menorca (fly back tomorrow) so s’pose I have more time on my hands.

I’m completely with the “let’s support the team” or “let’s support the manager”. It’s just that McClaren was a ****ing crap appointment in the first place and not much of an upgrade on Ollie in my opinion.

Nice my parents had a Villa there 73-85
San Clemente near Cales Coves
Never been back
What’s it like today ?
Cala n Porter was the nearest resort

Takes me back
Mum was a real hippy and those years influenced my desire for European travel
 
:) Tres droll. Sorry, Strolls, can’t help myself. I have a fairly unusual surname myself - no I’m not really U Burr - so it just irritates me when people can’t be bothered to learn how to spell their team manager’s name properly.

Oh, I'm right with you mate. I have what should be a fairly straightforward surname, which is routinely misspelt by people who are too lazy to try and get it right. Plus I'm still trying to get over how we lost to the Belgiums.
 
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