It'll come down to how shackled we are to do business outside the EU.
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It'll come down to how shackled we are to do business outside the EU.
In your own nut maybe
Collecting new stories and links to reinforce your opinion has made you Brexit mad
exactly. The remoaners will be happy as they think that it will only be Brexit in name and they will be hoping the leavers will accept it. They will also hope it will give them time to regroup and get another vote.
Sadly they shouldn't underestimate the 17+M that wanted out. The best thing that can happen is we see May get the axe and we get in a strong leader. no one knows exactly what the final deal will be so we will have to wait and see.
I thought you were going away for a bit 'old kiddie'?
May's future is in many ways in the EU's hands. The EU must realise by now that she represents their best chance of avoiding WTO rules. Even then, it can't be certain as you say
She already has a fight on her hands with Boris. Which by the way she won't win between 70-80% conservatives voters support Boris and he is now more popular than her.
She went to the EU and has told them that if they don't help her out with something she will be out on her ear. THe last thing the EU want is a UK doing well under WTO as their Eurodream will be left in tatters and others will want out.
Boris is coming out of this burka stuff quite well, crafty sod! He has the sympathy vote and Lord Shriek is being trolled!
Let’s do the maths on this.
It takes 48 Tory MPs to write to the 1922 Committee chair to trigger a leadership confidence vote. Hasn’t happened. And won’t while MPs are in their holidays, which last until 4 September.
In the confidence vote if May gets 158 out of 314 votes she stays PM. The majority of Tory MPs voted remain, and none of them trust Johnson. I’m guessing likely she will win.
If she doesn’t pass the confidence vote she has to resign and not stand for the leadership, then there are a series of votes amongst MPs to narrow down the field to 2, who then campaign to win a vote of party members - 8-10 weeks.
So earliest leadership change, unless someone stands unopposed (like May got away with after Leadsom imploded) would be sometime in November.
EU negotiations due to finish in October, so all Parliaments have time to ratify before end of March next year. If there is no deal to ratify you get what you want without a change of leader. If there is a deal, and it is passed by Parliament, too late for whoever the new leader is to change it.
Sounds so easy from your point of view but you forget the only reason the 48 hasn't moved on her was because up to recently May had a big Tory support however that has changed after she sold out. Even the Tory remainers have moaned about a bad deal. You will be surprised how the silent majority and members of the Tory party work. The MP's will follow what the members say or they will lose their seat.
Are Corbyn, Starmer et al all going to get behind the Chequer's deal as watered down by the EU? I don't know. Of course, if they don't, we may get WTO by default but they may insist May goes back to the EU and we run out of time
Agree the comment about Mp's vote is wide of the mark. Corbyn as we know, is more Eurosceptic than May. He already believes her deal is crap as does that smooth talking muppet Chuka Umunna. We also have to remember that others want to bring May down hoping for an election. Thing is Goldie people don't really know who will vote for what at the moment.
I think that's true. That's what's going to make the next couple of months seat of the pants stuff. Meanwhile, the BBC that had a perfectly good Daily Politics program and a special on a Sunday, has decided now is the time to end it, not just for August, but permanently. Only BBC management know why they take such decisions
That’s a good question, not sure if all the Labour Party will get behind a Jersey deal, but it’s a numbers game, might depend on what they think the electorate feel. If me and Col can get to the ‘ok ffs that’ll do’ stage I’m sure others have, may be that the level of exhaustion and boredom with the whole thing makes any deal popular, or at least not hated, by enough people for it to work. But even in the scenario you paint neither Mogg nor Johnson come riding to the rescue.
I listened to Nigel Farage yesterday and a caller said he should join up with Boris and start a party and he went sheepish.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1533924208
Dreamteam especially if Moggmeister joins in.
I forgot I just post articles, don't I... Who should I listen to though? Renowned Journalists or someone I don't know on here?
https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1533924208
Dreamteam especially if Moggmeister joins in.
I forgot I just post articles, don't I... Who should I listen to though? Renowned Journalists or someone I don't know on here?
I listened to Nigel Farage yesterday and a caller said he should join up with Boris and start a party and he went sheepish.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1533924208
Dreamteam especially if Moggmeister joins in.
Get yourself a Norman Bates mirror x
I listened to Nigel Farage yesterday and a caller said he should join up with Boris and start a party and he went sheepish.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1533924208
Dreamteam especially if Moggmeister joins in.
That would be brilliant. Farage, Johnson and Rees-Mogg all together in one party guaranteed to never gain power. This isn't the US.
Look at the choice May Comrade Corbyn (who will be gone soon) or Boris? It would have to be Boris. Interesting listening to Radio phone-ins of late and many people from all sides are looking for something else.