The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 2nd Aug)

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Chippy / Glory said:
First we will wait and see how that was financed and more importantly where the liabilities lie.
Second even if he bought it with his own cash as the then sole owner of LUFC the value of his saleable company LUFC Ltd (or whatever it is called) went up by more than the cost of buying the ground. This was evidenced by getting £10 million from the 49ers for a 10% stake in the company. In effect he made money by buying the ground, the income is deferred until he sells that's all.
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Wrong again it is not differed it is free of any charges just look at the accounts 'You can't sell the ground and the club and say oh BTW I am owed £20m because I didn;t charge rent
 
ristac said:
But is it not good to have someone in charge who is reinvesting the money made whilst keeping us financially sound? Look what GFH nearly did to us, or Bates, we were lucky if we spent £1m in a season under him despite all the sales.

He (Rads) is making logical moves forward, he has continually learned a lesson. Last season he brought the ground back and laid some solid foundations, his biggest mistake giving Orta full control over transfers but that’s just my opinion.

This season he and Orta are actually working with Bielsa in securing good quality UK based players, if sell on clauses were not installed on players like Cook to generate us more income then we’d be saying he is a poor businessman.

I’d rather have a non supporting Leeds owner reinvesting and making us look an attractive club than a poor supporter with nothing to invest, I dare say the Man City owners had never supported the team before the takeover.

Rads has won me back over after starting to lose me, mainly for allowing Bielsa to have a say on the ins and outs, secondly for putting the cash back in and not going the all out loan route but buying quality in Bamford and Douglas.

I still don’t believe Rads will be here in 5 years but when he has made us the attractive proposition that we are becoming I’ll be happy to see the next Man City type owners take charge <ok>
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All I am saying is Rad is here for the cash, not a problem if he improves the team at the same time. Those who think that one way or another he isn't getting a great return on his investment however it's funded are wrong.
He is not doing us a favour its a mutually beneficial arrangement if he improves he team and gets us promoted. As such I am not going to ever think he is a hero.
Orta IMHO is surplus to requirements and sooner or later he will cause difficulties again.
 
leeds60 said:
Wrong again it is not differed it is free of any charges just look at the accounts 'You can't sell the ground and the club and say oh BTW I am owed £20m because I didn;t charge rent
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The relevant accounts aren't out till next June. How can I be wrong when all I said lets wait and see?
Have you learned nothing about smoke and mirror financing under Bates, GFH and Cellino.
I might be wrong but you can't possibly know that yet.
 
leeds60 said:
Good Moring Matt from a dull Bardsey Went with my 4 year old Grand child to Lotherton Hall if you haven't been its well worth a visit just to see the bird sanctuary and the kiddies playground is amazing
I have never seen so many push chairs in my life plus it was Yorkshire day and it was full of stalls I will definitely go again and the entrance fee for 3 adults and child was £15! Well done to Leeds City Council who own it
Great news Matt about Ryan Woods when you think what we got for Viera he will make a great signing
Matt you missed out some important news Spurs have offered Bournemouth £30m for Cook how much will we receive £6mand then there is still bounty to be had over the sales of Danny Rose still to come so all in all we could be looking at £11m
Phil Hay who is a very honest writer says we will sign a CB this week so that's my 5 completed no doubt that will not be enough for some but it will be a much stronger squad than last season
Finally we still need to ofload 3 players Ekuban OKane and Anita
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Morning Mike, Ekuban has dissappeared...

O'Kane should be going to Wigan, and Anita is still recovering from injury.

If we can capture Woods, that would be a group coup!!!

We'll get 6/7m from the Rose sale, but I wasn't aware that we had a clause on Cook?
 
ristac said:
But is it not good to have someone in charge who is reinvesting the money made whilst keeping us financially sound? Look what GFH nearly did to us, or Bates, we were lucky if we spent £1m in a season under him despite all the sales.

He (Rads) is making logical moves forward, he has continually learned a lesson. Last season he brought the ground back and laid some solid foundations, his biggest mistake giving Orta full control over transfers but that’s just my opinion.

This season he and Orta are actually working with Bielsa in securing good quality UK based players, if sell on clauses were not installed on players like Cook to generate us more income then we’d be saying he is a poor businessman.

I’d rather have a non supporting Leeds owner reinvesting and making us look an attractive club than a poor supporter with nothing to invest, I dare say the Man City owners had never supported the team before the takeover.

Rads has won me back over after starting to lose me, mainly for allowing Bielsa to have a say on the ins and outs, secondly for putting the cash back in and not going the all out loan route but buying quality in Bamford and Douglas.

I still don’t believe Rads will be here in 5 years but when he has made us the attractive proposition that we are becoming I’ll be happy to see the next Man City type owners take charge <ok>
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Good morning all,can't wait for sunday (hrrmm hope someone can get a good link up)
Bloody good post Ristac agree it all, is their some way i can double like that.:emoticon-0148-yes:
 
ristac said:
Morning all, if we do get Woods then it shows we probably were after a new striker in the mould of Bamford AND Vydra, not just one or the other. Are we in for a few surprise exclusions, loans out or sales in January? I don’t see where we are going to fit all these midfield players into a regular starting 11 but a pleasant problem to have although sometimes too much choice can backfire.

Getting to be quite a positive buzz about the season ahead.
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Morning ristac, I can't complain about any of the signings tbh, all top notch - Leeds have spent wisely, and have got 13 players off their books.
 
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Chippy / Glory said:
Just do the maths. start with £18 million for Wood and the £7.7 million for Viera and the £10 million he sold a stake for to the 49ers.
Others will say that the income will be paid on a staged basis and they are right. but so is the expenditure.
I am perfectly happy, I just don't like fantasy economics.
Rad is not a leeds fan he is a business man.
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18m for Wood. You can't just make things up. You're not an estate age....<yikes>
 
ellandback said:
Good Morning Everyone

Three days and counting to kick off....

Did you know that since SGT Wiko's reign in 1988, only Wilkinson, OLeary, Venables, Blackwell, Wise, McDermott and Christiansen have won their first match in charge of Leeds.




A radio 5 live journo has claimed this morning that a fee between Brentford and Leeds has been agreed for Ryan Woods.

We will have to wait and see, but a fee of 6m is being banded about!

A very good player, though lacking in the height department.




Leeds have parted company with Luke Murphy. The 28yo has agreed with the club to terminate his contract.




There was a rumour floating about the Joey Barton's Fleetwood Town was take De Bock on loan. This looks unlikely as during a recent interview Barton said 'I've never heard of De Bock"!
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Thats cos he cant read .
 
Chippy / Glory said:
Just do the maths. start with £18 million for Wood and the £7.7 million for Viera and the £10 million he sold a stake for to the 49ers.
Others will say that the income will be paid on a staged basis and they are right. but so is the expenditure.
I am perfectly happy, I just don't like fantasy economics.
Rad is not a leeds fan he is a business man.
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Didn't get £18 million for Wood,didn't get £7.7 million for Vieira and he sold 10% of the club.You got every point wrong again.<doh> and 60 is right you could be Corbyns twin.:grin:
 
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