So when someone says De Gea is worth X points for Man Utd, do you go back to when he joined and judge him on the previous keeper? When a striker joins and someone says he's worth twenty goals a season, is that twenty more than the previous striker?
G, I think you've interpreted the quote differently to me and mito's comments differently to me. I'd still like to know your interpretation of 'saving points' but I guess I'm not going to get it
not just down to having a better keeper though. vvd has had a positive impact on the defence same as robertson, and taa is getting better and better. my only worry is vvd partner whoever it is is normally prone to not being on same wave length as rest ie mainly lovren. tell you one thing, if suddenly alisson turns to **** we better stop making excuses for goalie coach and get ****ing shot pronto!
De Gea even makes mistakes, made some in the world cup. He more than makes up for it though. He wins many man of the match awards and player of the season awards. Thats a keeper that wins/saves you points
If I'd really wanted to get into the topic this is the angle I'd have gone mate. Defence needs confidence in the keeper. Attackers need support from midfielders who will only provide that if they have confidence in the defence. It's a knock on effect and a team game. I have no more concerns about Lovren than I do about others. They all make mistakes from time to time, including VVD!
Bang on that. Top CB PAIRINGS are just that, they need to know and understand each other’s game, and the best partnerships compliment each other with different strengths. Any top pairing needs a top keeper behind them, and they all need time to learn each other’s games. The CB needs to know instinctively whether his keeper is going to come for a particular ball, or whether he knows his partner is going to be covering him if he attacks the ball etc etc etc. Takes time that, which is why the very best teams are generally assembled over years, as those partnerships need to happen all over the pitch, and that level of understanding takes time.
Exactly! Some on here will remember I used to bang on about small, medium and large cogs within a team. Small cogs are individual players. Medium cogs are partnerships. There is only one large cog which is the team. If the middle one doesn't exist, the other two are ****e.
