Off Topic The Politics Thread

As I recall, Saudis yes, Chinese no.

But this is about Trump. Let’s stay on topic. My history isn’t really what this thread should be about.

 

Not really. Only if you choose to disbelieve 99% of the media and believe Trump/Fox. And if you do, there’s no place our relative thoughts could possibly meet.

 

Even the commentator today (who dislikes Trump) said he was democratically elected and we should respect that.
You really are an Owen Jones aren't you.

 

i wanted to see the banners

 

Where did you demonstrate against the Saudis? ...quick look on google may help.

 

They will be online. I wasn’t taking pictures. Because it’s not about me.

 

Gammon is certainly racist, but then, Corbyn is antisemitic and left wingers justify it...

 

It is all part of the same debate. It is a simple question. You berate Trump so answer the question.

 

I get your point Stainesy, but coconut is more complicated. Isn't it mainly used by black people about other black people, and isn't it about attitude and not colour? If white people use it, I would say it's not acceptable. I think that I, as a middle-aged white male, should be able to describe other such people as gammon if I choose. I hereby apologise to anyone on here who was offended by this, though.

Is gammon any worse than some of the epithets used on here to describe Owen Jones, James O'Brien, Sadiq Khan, or Jeremy Corbyn?

I don't think so.

 

I don't know what Gammon means.

 

I’m gonna be honest Wills, I dont believe you.....and no this is the politics thread and not just about Trump (Protest is a form of politics).

 

It's aimed at white middle aged men, since presumably they may have a ruddy complexion. It's a racist term used be the left

 

It’s definitely not racist. It’s a mildly amusing term for angry old pink folk. It’s become contentious because that group, despite supposedly being the defenders of free speech and lambasting “snowflakes”, are always the biggest snowflakes going. To call it racist undermines genuine racism IMO.

 

I don't believe him either. Sadly he castigates Trump (which by the way is his view) however when you ask a simple question he can't answer it.

 

the maoris call all the islanders in nz coconuts
a few of them mean it in fun

 

Of course It's racist, because It's a term of abuse restricted to people of a certain colour

 

Mate, I just don’t agree with you.....both refer to colour.....both refer to attitude and mannerisms and both should be classed as racist (IMHO).
No need to apologise as half the nation think it’s acceptable.....and as I say nothing personal on you.....just an interesting debate (as I had with my crewmate at 3am this morning)

 

but its only white people who are racist

 

I’m not lying. I have no reason to be lying. If you insist in calling me a liar, I assume you either think you have proof that you can share, or will apologise.