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2 pennth said:
Tried to say that last week. Having just read the post from Marcos it makes me feel sick, it does unfortunately prove the point there is good and bad in all, race colour or creed have nothing to do with it, some members of the human race are just plain sick.As you say enough already.
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Of course what you are saying is true,but some religous leaders are preaching it's ok to do it,we can't and shouldn't allow that,the fact it's the muslim faith doing it is irrelevant,I would be saying we can't allow Jews,Christians or any other faith to be doing this.
 
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lifecheshirewhite said:
Of course what you are saying is true,but some religous leaders are preaching it's ok to do it,we can't and shouldn't allow that,the fact it's the muslim faith doing it is irrelevant,I would be saying we can't allow Jews,Christians or any other faith to be doing this.
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100% agree, so the only thing that makes this related to religion is that TR wants to cover some cases that all have something in common. You are smart enough to get that.

So why accuse people of bullying if someone wants to post YouTube “evidence” and fake news to purport that it is a religious issue and are challenged on that?
 
Marcos Barber said:
If I understand you correctly, you have a problem with *****s in general not being prosecuted regardless of colour or creed?? That being the case, we are on the same page so why the defence of all the vids??
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I don't agree or defend all LL vids,I do believe he has a right to his opinion,If a person is a strong racist,there is no bigger anti racist message than to let him say it,people soon make there mind up think what a sick loon we have here and have nothing to do with him,if you go around slagging everyone who says one careless word your hate and abuse pushes them towards race hate not from it.
Do you ever remember Alf Garnet ? probably not being a young pup,he played the part on tv of a hard racist,his own acts made his views look stupid and the Black people he abused,looked reasonable,and clever,because they didn't react.
 
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Marcos Barber said:
100% agree, so the only thing that makes this related to religion is that TR wants to cover some cases that all have something in common. You are smart enough to get that.

So why accuse people of bullying if someone wants to post YouTube “evidence” and fake news to purport that it is a religious issue and are challenged on that?
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How many of you have seen the posts laughed and said what a load of rubbish,you make your own minds up,what makes you think no one can think for themselves.I admit I usually watch 20 seconds,think where the hell has that come from and go do something else.But like everyone else I am capable of deciding for myself,he actually highlights how much fake news rubbish is out there,just like Glory and 20/20 do with their remain fake news.
 
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lifecheshirewhite said:
I don't agree or defend all LL vids,I do believe he has a right to his opinion,If a person is a strong racist,there is no bigger anti racist message than to let him say it,people soon make there mind up think what a sick loon we have here and have nothing to do with him,if you go around slagging everyone who says one careless word your hate and abuse pushes them towards race hate not from it.
Do you ever remember Alf Garnet ? probably not being a young pup,he played the part on tv of a hard racist,his own acts made his views look stupid and the Black people he abused,looked reasonable,and clever,because they didn't react.
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Powerful and correct. Yes, of course everyone has a right to an opinion and smart in the “let them hang themselves” message but, unfortunately, the wonder of the internet means these views can be read by billions of people within moments. Lies become truths and the uneducated teach themselves with the opinions of others, freedom of speech is important but also very dangerous.
 
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lifecheshirewhite said:
How many of you have seen the posts laughed and said what a load of rubbish,you make your own minds up,what makes you think no one can think for themselves.I admit I usually watch 20 seconds,think where the hell has that come from and go do something else.But like everyone else I am capable of deciding for myself,he actually highlights how much fake news rubbish is out there,just like Glory and 20/20 do with their remain fake news.
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Well, I would argue that we have living proof of at least one that can easily be led into thinking it is all gospel
 
Marcos Barber said:
Powerful and correct. Yes, of course everyone has a right to an opinion and smart in the “let them hang themselves” message but, unfortunately, the wonder of the internet means these views can be read by billions of people within moments. Lies become truths and the uneducated teach themselves with the opinions of others, freedom of speech is important but also very dangerous.
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Some will believe,and you will never get rid of race hate,but I don't believe anti race hate is the answer.
 
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lifecheshirewhite said:
I don't agree or defend all LL vids,I do believe he has a right to his opinion,If a person is a strong racist,there is no bigger anti racist message than to let him say it,people soon make there mind up think what a sick loon we have here and have nothing to do with him,if you go around slagging everyone who says one careless word your hate and abuse pushes them towards race hate not from it.
Do you ever remember Alf Garnet ? probably not being a young pup,he played the part on tv of a hard racist,his own acts made his views look stupid and the Black people he abused,looked reasonable,and clever,because they didn't react.
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The more I think about it the smarter this post becomes, top work
 
Marcos Barber said:
Ok, let me tell you about “Jane”. She’s the girl I mentioned in my post earlier who’s now 22. Jane is not her real name for reasons that will become clear.

Jane took her own father to court when she was 18 after 13 years of abuse. When I say abuse, I mean rape and every degrading act you could imagine a kid being put through. Not just by her father but her uncle too and, at least, another dozen guys in their thirties, forties, fifties and sixties.

Jane lost her court case (and a huge amount of her soul) at Crown Court. Why a jury thought a five year old girl would need a bolt on the inside of their bedroom door at a height they couldn’t reach I will never understand.

I know Jane because the angel that took her in was her best friends mum who happens to be a friend of my wife, you see, Jane can’t live with her mum and dad any more, it’s a bit awkward.

After the case Jane started receiving e-mails from unknown accounts showing her being fuc4ed by a host of pot bellied older guys with their faces pixelated out with beautiful messages like “we’ll never forget our favourite baby doll”. I know this because I have seen them. Jane had a brain tumour removed earlier this year that has caused multiple seizures, she is now planning her wedding to an amazing young man. I want her to take the e-mails to the police and go again and have offered to pay her legal fees and stand side by side with her in court because I am steaming about her treatment. Jane is a better person than me and wants to let sleeping *****s lie. She is Jane for the purpose of this post because I so hope she will change her mind.

All of the perpetrators have walked free on bail or without charge. This is a true story and not one character is Muslim (or indeed anything other than British and white). The jobs that I know of that they hold are, teacher, Company Director and Saint Johns Ambulance driver.

Chesh, I genuinely like you and you know it but don’t be saying it’s one law for us and one for them, it’s not. The law may be an ass but it’s an even handed ass. I have never accused you of being racist and if people don’t put their heads above the parapet they are unlikely to be shot at.

I have not told Jane about TR, you see she may feel inferior that he wasn’t on the steps of the Crown Court when she was fighting her battle.
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I see the faux outrage by our resident bully because the dirty bastard *****s are white, he should be also outraged about the Pakistani muslim rape gangs up and down the country that the establishment are covering up.
by the way, doesn't 'jane' have access to papers, internet, social media to learn about Tommy Robinson or has she to wait for someone to enlighten her?
 
Davy said:
Should have been, for the same reason as that tw@t Robinson. Likely to derail the conviction of the perpetrators. <doh>
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But he wasn't, and Tommy was, ask yourself why, silly bollix<doh>
oh, and it was for sentencing, they had already been found guilty, and he was reading from a BBC news feed<doh>
 
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