Mikel Arteta favourite to become Arsenal manager

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Spurlock said:
<laugh>

Who was in Barca's first team when Pep took over? How were Barca doing in the league? How have they done after he left?

You get where this is going my Luv?

Arteta is just a Spanish Howe as things stand...but without the first team experience.
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I also think Howe would be a good appointment.
 
Spurlock said:
<laugh>

Who was in Barca's first team when Pep took over? How were Barca doing in the league? How have they done after he left?

You get where this is going my Luv?

Arteta is just a Spanish Howe as things stand...but without the first team experience.
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The "Spanish Howe" made me laugh so thanks for that. <ok>
 
luvgonzo said:
Yeah good point, it's always a risk and won't always work out but I think it's time football moved on and gave young managers the chance.
It'll do a Arsenal no good getting rid of one dinosaur and replacing him with another.
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Bodgers didn't do too badly, I seem to remember. No silverware but he did lead to you to a top 4 finish.
 
PISKIE said:
I’d still prefer Allegri, but it doesn’t look like he’s coming.
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You’ve got to ask yourself why?

You would have thought that Allegri would jump at the chance to manage Arsenal.

Something isn’t right.
 
PISKIE said:
Yeah this <ok>

Arsenal want a head coach rather than a traditional manager. As you mention scouting, recruitment and contracts are being taken care off by others now, so we’re looking for a football man to manage the team.

Arteta would be a risk, but he’s already proving himself at City in a coaching no2 role. I’d still prefer Allegri, but it doesn’t look like he’s coming. Arteta would definitley fit the mould that Arsenal are looking for.
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Dodgy as **** imo. It means the coach has to assemble a team from players he hasn't personally picked. Transfer committees are on the large a shambles. Rodgers at Liverpool had this type of set up and we bought some utter ****e that didn't fit with his style.

What Arsenal need is someone with character to grab the team by the scruff of the neck and push it forward... this seems a bit flimsy imo.
 
If you brought in someone like Ancelotti to steady
the ship short-term, with the explicit demand that
Arteta is #2 with a view to being mentored to be ready
to possibly take the job in the long-term, IMHO that
could work.

Kroenke seems far too conservative to risk taking Arteta
(who has no real managerial experience on his CV) , at
a time when getting back into the PL top 4 ASAP is a must.
 
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FrogOnToast said:
If he comes, Arteta will in effect only be in control of what happens on the pitch. Sanllehi and Mislintat will be responsible for signings and other managerial related issues. From that perspective it could be a smart move. Basically instead of having three managers performing the duty of one. Only time will tell if it works out.
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Sounds way too risky and a likely recipe for disaster with conflicting ideas.
 
The RDBD said:
If you brought in someone like Ancelotti to steady
the ship short-term, with the explicit demand that
Arteta is #2 with a view to being mentored to be ready
to possibly take the job in the long-term, IMHO that
could work.

Kroenke seems far too conservative to risk taking Arteta
(who has no real managerial experience on his CV) , at
a time when getting back into the PL top 4 ASAP is a must.
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I said on our board that maybe Arsenal aren't looking too attractive to top level managers.

They're in a bit of a state at the moment. Finished outside the top four twice in a row, have a team full of players that aren't good enough for their stature and their fans have become a laughing stock due to the way they turned on their greatest ever manager along with the rise in popularity of the ridiculous AFTV.

A massive rebuilding job is needed for them and big name managers tend not to favour those types of jobs as it puts their reputation at risk. They often prefer taking over sides that are near enough ready-made for success but for a few needed tweaks. It's probably why Arteta is now favourite because he has no managerial reputation and is up for the task of trying to rebuild them.
 
Skylarker said:
Dodgy as **** imo. It means the coach has to assemble a team from players he hasn't personally picked. Transfer committees are on the large a shambles. Rodgers at Liverpool had this type of set up and we bought some utter ****e that didn't fit with his style.

What Arsenal need is someone with character to grab the team by the scruff of the neck and push it forward... this seems a bit flimsy imo.
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Yeah I’d much rather we got Allegri than this mash up + head coach style.
 
SSN are saying that Arsenal will hold talks with Arteta about becoming their new manager today.
 
Matth_2014 said:
They’re taking a massive risk, I don’t know why they’re going for him in my opinion.
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Yeah Matth, we get it. You think it's a risk.

Care to tell me which of the managers on the european merry go round they should employ?

I'll give you an analogy; we took on Moyes instead of Giggs because Moyes was experienced and Giggs was a 'risk'. We will never know how Giggs would have turned out but sure as hell know how Moyes turned out. Arteta is Giggs.
 
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Chief said:
I'll give you an analogy; we took on Moyes instead of Giggs because Moyes was experienced and Giggs was a 'risk'.
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Not just experience though, was it.

He had Everton operating at / slightly above their financial
power in the PL for several years, so the premise that given
so much more resource he could do so much better IMHO
was sound.

What nobody really understood at the time was the sheer
iron will of Fergie in making the 2012-13 squad (some of
whom were coming to the end of the road) into emphatic
PL winners.

Nobody else (even Fergie himself) was going to do the
same the next season.
 
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The RDBD said:
Not just experience though, was it.

He had Everton operating at / slightly above their financial
power in the PL for several years, so the premise that given
so much more resource he could do so much better IMHO
was sound.

What nobody really understood at the time was the sheer
iron will of Fergie in making the 2012-13 squad (some of
whom were coming to the end of the road) into emphatic
PL winners.

Nobody else (even Fergie himself) was going to do the
same the next season.
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You're missing the point, this isn't about Moyes.

By the way, no one understood what Fergie did? Seriously?
 
Plenty of Premier League experienced managers have failed. Experience isn't everything. I think it's finding the perfect balance of motivation, willingness, tactics, luck and star quality that you need on any given day, over the course of an entire season.

As an aside, how many of the Leicester City side that won the Premier League had had experience of winning anything prior to that? There has to be more to it than that.
 
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