British Gov official line on Skripal assassination 
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"But this is not the only time the government has made this claim. The Russian embassy in London has highlighted a tweet by the Foreign Office last month. The tweet said that Porton Down had “made clear” that the Novichok nerve agent was “produced in Russia”."
According to C4
That's the second claim from the Foreign office that it was categorically "made in Russia" and claimed Porton Down was the source of this claim, both were false, intentionally false MITO. can;t you see what's going on here ffs.
How much war and war mongering are you going to just accept from your own government. ffs
BBC is at the heart of this too, BBC runs more war propaganda than any other news organisation in the world via its various services, especially the World Service
Seriously lads....
Why hasn't anyone rated stormy Daniel's porn skills on this thread.



Clear evidence of the UK foreign office war mongering, and I mean wtf like, there is only one winner in a war between Russia and Britain, and it's not Britain![]()
MSNBC are actually discussing Trump barricading himself in the White House surrounded by secret services, refusing to come out to federal marshals
US media.. it's surreal. Completely unhinged!
CNN spent 15 minutes in an interview with someone claiming Trump is going to wipe out humanity because he has a small penis
I truly pity Americans information wise, that media.. **** me!
There won't be war. Silly to think there would be. Neither side wants war.
Russia's advantage would be
In a short term war...
Or if nuclear weapons involved...
Or if no allies join in.
Russia is better poised for a quick and immediate fight than probably anyone. No question they have more nukes than anyone else.
They lack the fiscal ability or manufacturing ability to wage a long term conventional war against the European Union (Britain couldn't go it alone). Without nukes though they're little more than a regional power. They're strong in a short term immediate war and could probably take a chunk of Eastern Europe before being stopped... But they are not capable of sustaining a long war and the EU even without American help would eventually turn back Russia in a non-nuclear exchange.
All theoretical though because there will not be a war in our lifetime between Russia and West. Russia is a shadow of what it was though. Without nukes they wouldn't be a global worry.
There won't be war. Silly to think there would be. Neither side wants war.
Russia's advantage would be
In a short term war...
Or if nuclear weapons involved...
Or if no allies join in.
Russia is better poised for a quick and immediate fight than probably anyone. No question they have more nukes than anyone else.
They lack the fiscal ability or manufacturing ability to wage a long term conventional war against the European Union (Britain couldn't go it alone). Without nukes though they're little more than a regional power. They're strong in a short term immediate war and could probably take a chunk of Eastern Europe before being stopped... But they are not capable of sustaining a long war and the EU even without American help would eventually turn back Russia in a non-nuclear exchange.
All theoretical though because there will not be a war in our lifetime between Russia and West. Russia is a shadow of what it was though. Without nukes they wouldn't be a global worry.

huh..... realy? theyve sunk that low on the 24 hour news cycle now? nutters

" No question they have more nukes than anyone else." < LOL
Russia only has 200 more warheads lol and the US has them all over the planet. lol
US 6800
Russia 7000
Like that makes a difference
The US will only get involved in a war for self interest, doesn't give a **** about Britain, if for some reason it served to not get involved (Trump works for Putin after all) Russia would flatten the entire EU in a conventional war. Soft Europeans could not fight a war like that, ****ing hell no, they would sooner turn on their own governments to end it, fact
huh..... realy? theyve sunk that low on the 24 hour news cycle now? nutters


i dont think there's a single.serious army in the whole eu.
UK has been down sizing.
Germans are... well... untested shall we say. that big tank of theirs might be good. leopard? anyway... the russians imo would roll over eu in weeks
i.dont think the Russians could sustain the.campaign as milk says but they'd be well able.to beat anyone.. they would need a couple years to gear up for such a campaign.
milk... what do you think the eu is?
theres nothing there to stop anyone.
russia is more than a regional power still.
Ignoring nukes...
Russia has less than 800k troops compared to 1mil if you combine England, France, Germany, Spain And Italy.... thats not including all thr smaller countries...Combine that with the fact that Russia would have to fight an offensive fight to have any advantage (they don't have budget or manufacturing capability to deal with a long term war). An offensive war is more costly and difficult than a defensive war.
Russia spends less on the military than the UK alone and has a lot of aging equipment.
Russia has their assets closer to hand along the border with East Europe. They would be able to take most of Eastern Europe before being stopped but would eventually lose out....
... That's even without the US.
Now nukes are a different story. Neither UK nor France can come close to matching Russia.
Russia is more powerful than the UK, but any war would certainly involve most of Europe and Russia isn't capable of taking on all of Europe. They already spend a higher % of GDP on military spending than Europe and are already behind. In any extended conflict Europe would be able to produce much more munitions, vehicles and warheads.
I cant speak for Russia I can only speak for our own side of this crapshoot. It's us who are pushing this cold war MKII ****, that is just a fact. ffs
There won't be war and there won't even be a cold war. Neither side wants one. Trump is stupid enough to try to provoke one but there are other political powers in the US that can mitigate his stupidity
ok so...
fair enough until
a) france - on strike
b) italy... yeah thats always gone well.
you are takling about 800k russians in one unit v independent states who dont get along all that well or work well despite the bravado.
in reality its russia v germany first and foremost.
if it were war tomorrow russia would plough under the europeans as the tooling up you are talking about would take years
