Match Day Thread Hull City v Aston Villa.

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That’s my point, not a great servant then by that measure.

You’re kidding? He was here for nigh on a decade without moving. You’re right, not a great servant. A fantastic one. Service isn’t just measured by length of time at the club either. Think of all he did.
It’s hard to say a club legend isn’t a great servant. In fact, it’s bollocks.
 
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You’re kidding? He was here for nigh on a decade without moving. You’re right, not a great servant. A fantastic one. Service isn’t just measured by length of time at the club either. Think of all he did.
It’s hard to say a club legend isn’t a great servant. In fact, it’s bollocks.

I didn’t say he wasn’t a great servant. I just checked and I did actually say he was a great servant.
 
There is no measure by which Ian Ashbee wasn’t a great servant of Hull City.

If someone didn’t mention a player’s name or what he’d achieved and simply said he put in a transfer request the first time in his club career he was not being selected when fit, and then asked on that one single basis if that made them a good servant, what would the answer be?

My entire point, which I thought I couldn’t have made any clearer, is there are ****loads of measureables that collectively determine if someone is a great servant or not and it’s easy to be a great servant when you’re being picked to play.
 
If someone didn’t mention a player’s name or what he’d achieved and simply said he put in a transfer request the first time in his club career he was not being selected when fit, and then asked on that one single basis if that made them a good servant, what would the answer be?

My entire point, which I thought I couldn’t have made any clearer, is there are ****loads of measureables that collectively determine if someone is a great servant or not and it’s easy to be a great servant when you’re being picked to play.

There is no measure by which Ian Ashbee wasn’t a great servant of Hull City.

He was still being selected when he handed in his transfer request anyway.
 
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He didn’t like the bollocking he got from Pearson for his off-field antics.

He’d also got the hump that we’d only offered him a one year deal.

‘Player A doesn’t like his manager criticising his - admitted by himself - increasingly wayward off-field antics and he’s not happy at receiving a short contract offer. Is he a great servant to the club?’
 
That the final 18 months of Ash’s time with Hull City are so intrinsically linked with Bullard is a crying shame. The two were regularly seen around the bars and clubs of Hull, sometimes with a gaggle of the club’s younger players in their company. When question marks were raised about Bullard’s conduct and his commitment to the club, when his fleeting appearances on the pitch made it clear that he was not going to be our saviour, and the astronomical wages he was doing nothing to warrant made him seem more like the anti-christ as we struggled under a mountain of debt in the Championship, it was hard to disassociate Ash from it all.

One of the most heroic figures in our history and one of the most villainous seemed joined at the hip. When a Sunday newspaper showed pictures of Bullard getting up to some ‘high-jinks’ in Las Vegas, it was Ash stood grinning in the background (cruelly described in the caption only as ‘a friend’ by a sub-editor whose interest in football obviously begins and ends with Soccer AM). As rumours of rifts within the dressing room at the KC circled around Hull in Phil Brown’s final days, and Bullard got into a very public bout of fisticuffs with the saintly Nick Barmby, it was hard not to ponder what Ash’s role within it all was.

--- Ash was a true legend, and will always be so - however he didn't help his cause dicking around with Bullard