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Thanks dribs. Funnily enough, so do I
Effect of Trump derangement syndrome at CNN 
**** me, now bad do you have to be to finish below all that fox ****e.
**** me, now bad do you have to be to finish below all that fox ****e.
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Vladimir Putin’s Re-Election Strategy: Nukes and Assassins
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Now that British police have announced that Sunday’s poisoning in Salisbury of a former Russian intelligence officer turned MI6 asset, Col. Sergei Skripal, “is being treated as a major incident involving attempted murder by administration of a nerve agent,” Kremlin involvement in the crime seems almost certain. But what was the motivation, aside from reminding Russian spies what could happen to them if they betrayed their country?
It is significant that the poisoning occurred just two weeks before Russia’s presidential elections, with Putin displaying hyped-up belligerence toward the West.
In an address last week to Russia’s Federal Assembly, Putin bragged about Russia’s new nuclear missiles, which he claimed could evade anti-missile defenses and deal a devastating blow to the United States.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...ukes-and-assassins/ar-BBK0GUk?ocid=spartandhp
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ditor's note: The opinions expressed in this article are those of the author on behalf of our content partner and do not represent the views of MSN or Microsoft
Now that British police have announced that Sunday’s poisoning in Salisbury of a former Russian intelligence officer turned MI6 asset, Col. Sergei Skripal, “is being treated as a major incident involving attempted murder by administration of a nerve agent,” Kremlin involvement in the crime seems almost certain. But what was the motivation, aside from reminding Russian spies what could happen to them if they betrayed their country?
It is significant that the poisoning occurred just two weeks before Russia’s presidential elections, with Putin displaying hyped-up belligerence toward the West.
In an address last week to Russia’s Federal Assembly, Putin bragged about Russia’s new nuclear missiles, which he claimed could evade anti-missile defenses and deal a devastating blow to the United States.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...ukes-and-assassins/ar-BBK0GUk?ocid=spartandhp
No mention of the GCHQ agent lent to MI6 and was subsequently found dead, locked in a suitcase
"Gareth Williams (26 September 1978 – c. 16 August 2010) was a Welsh mathematician and employee of GCHQ seconded to the Secret Intelligence Service (SIS or MI6) who was found dead in suspicious circumstances at a Security Service safe house flat in Pimlico, London, on 23 August 2010"
A suspicious man might wonder what he (GCHQ hacker) found out at GCHQ that got him reassigned and killed
Can't wait for the trump kim conference.
Should see some fireworks in the states trying to explain this one.
Hopefully they have it some place in Finland. [HASHTAG]#neutral[/HASHTAG] ground
Should see some fireworks in the states trying to explain this one.
Hopefully they have it some place in Finland. [HASHTAG]#neutral[/HASHTAG] ground
Can't wait for the trump kim conference.
Should see some fireworks in the states trying to explain this one.
Hopefully they have it some place in Finland. [HASHTAG]#neutral[/HASHTAG] ground
no such thing as Neutral ground in a modern nuclear war mate.
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Seriously, wtf is going on in the UK.
You can be denied entry and detained for 3 days, then deported, simply because you came to interview Tommy Robinson
Jeremy Paxman interviewed Robinson, and he's been on BBC a ****load of times.
In Scotland, a youtuber (Count Dankula) has a court case, in court for a joke video. The bloke to who trained his dog to do Nazi salutes to piss off his girlfriend (the case is now running twice as long as the Nuremberg trials)
**** me lads, this is pure fascist insanity, the irony
Spare me diatribes about Robinson or Nazis, no one needs a history lesson. The left are going full censorship ******. Facebook twitter Google\youtube all at it.
You can't even have a speaking event in Kings College London without dudes in masks forcing their way in and threatening violence simply because they disagree with the speakers (A jewish dude (they were calling a nazi) and a classical British liberal)
Pure ****ing insanity. If you disagree with delusional progressive ideology on anything at all, you are attacked vilified and shut down and it's not just loonies, it's the government.
It's not just the UK, Ireland, the EU, Canada and Australia. It's Marxist dominated education that is the source of this anti intellectual, moronic progressive activism.
You don't have that kind of censorship here in Finland (yet).. but I don't see Nazis coming out of the woodwork.. bad ideas need to be heard so they can be refuted, not driven underground.
The strangest contradiction and insanity of the left I see today is, you can shut down or even brought to court for saying things that are inline with your religious beliefs, like Christians being against homosexuality... but.. if you subscribe to another religion you can openly speak about being against homosexuality.. and to criticise that, is Islamophobic, but to criticise a Christian for it is not Chistianophobic
This is pure self hatred from the left.
The left's alliance with political Sharia is ****ing scary.
You can be denied entry and detained for 3 days, then deported, simply because you came to interview Tommy Robinson
Jeremy Paxman interviewed Robinson, and he's been on BBC a ****load of times.In Scotland, a youtuber (Count Dankula) has a court case, in court for a joke video. The bloke to who trained his dog to do Nazi salutes to piss off his girlfriend (the case is now running twice as long as the Nuremberg trials)
**** me lads, this is pure fascist insanity, the irony
Spare me diatribes about Robinson or Nazis, no one needs a history lesson. The left are going full censorship ******. Facebook twitter Google\youtube all at it.
You can't even have a speaking event in Kings College London without dudes in masks forcing their way in and threatening violence simply because they disagree with the speakers (A jewish dude (they were calling a nazi) and a classical British liberal)
Pure ****ing insanity. If you disagree with delusional progressive ideology on anything at all, you are attacked vilified and shut down and it's not just loonies, it's the government.
It's not just the UK, Ireland, the EU, Canada and Australia. It's Marxist dominated education that is the source of this anti intellectual, moronic progressive activism.
You don't have that kind of censorship here in Finland (yet).. but I don't see Nazis coming out of the woodwork.. bad ideas need to be heard so they can be refuted, not driven underground.
The strangest contradiction and insanity of the left I see today is, you can shut down or even brought to court for saying things that are inline with your religious beliefs, like Christians being against homosexuality... but.. if you subscribe to another religion you can openly speak about being against homosexuality.. and to criticise that, is Islamophobic, but to criticise a Christian for it is not Chistianophobic
This is pure self hatred from the left.
The left's alliance with political Sharia is ****ing scary.
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Seriously, wtf is going on in the UK.
You can be denied entry and detained for 3 days, then deported, simply because you came to interview Tommy Robinson
In Scotland, a youtuber (Count Dankula) has a court case, in court for a joke video. The bloke to who trained his dog to do Nazi salutes to piss off his girlfriend (the case is now running twice as long as the Nuremberg trials)
**** me lads, this is pure fascist insanity, the irony
Spare me diatribes about Robinson or Nazis, no one needs a history lesson. The left are going full censorship ******. Facebook twitter Google\youtube all at it.
You can't even have a speaking event in Kings College London without dudes in masks forcing their way in and threatening violence simply because they disagree with the speakers (A jewish dude (they were calling a nazi) and a classical British liberal)
Pure ****ing insanity. If you disagree with delusional progressive ideology on anything at all, you are attacked vilified and shut down and it's not just loonies, it's the government.
It's not just the UK, Ireland, the EU, Canada and Australia. It's Marxist dominated education that is the source of this anti intellectual, moronic progressive activism.
You don't have that kind of censorship here in Finland (yet).. but I don't see Nazis coming out of the woodwork.. bad ideas need to be heard so they can be refuted, not driven underground.
The strangest contradiction and insanity of the left I see today is, you can shut down or even brought to court for saying things that are inline with your religious beliefs, like Christians being against homosexuality... but.. if you subscribe to another religion you can openly speak about being against homosexuality.. and to criticise that, is Islamophobic, but to criticise a Christian for it is not Chistianophobic
This is pure self hatred from the left.
The left's alliance with political Sharia is ****ing scary.
TBH I wonder about the whole war on terror and bush and blair's war and wonder if the faux patriotism has precipitated this or at last maybe allowed the people it suits to shut down dissenting voices to simulate this kind of stuff. It certainly has got to a point where never mind anything on the extreme right wing if you dare state a view thats not liberal enough you get your career and life ruined.
In the end... given the government sin play in UK, US and other states (conservative right wing etc) I don't think its just a liberal or marxist thing. I just happen to wonder about whether these centre right governments are not quite happy to have a loony left looking utterly ridiculous as the people who then vote come out and vote for them... but then again it is probably more complicated than that as the left has been in bed with the big companies so theres little to choose between then on polling day tbh.
"TBH I wonder about the whole war on terror and bush and blair's war and wonder if the faux patriotism has precipitated this or at last maybe allowed the people it suits to shut down dissenting voices to simulate this kind of stuff. It certainly has got to a point where never mind anything on the extreme right wing if you dare state a view thats not liberal enough you get your career and life ruined."
Interesting point, but I think this phenomena was started 40 years ago mate, and as marxist ideology festered in colleges and now, most professors in many areas are very left, as Marxism is appealing to academics who don't live in the read world.
The issue of war, the left wanted war, the BBC constantly marketed the Iraq war, in the US the Washington post and NYT lied America into war, two very lefty media sources. I don't think it is politically partisan.. Obama 8 years of war, and a Marxist to boot
We have to separate the results of wars from political ideology, I myself made those fallacious arguments years ago, until I applied some critical thinking, and I see many people who were opposed to my thoughts years ago, are now perpetuating the same ill thought out arguments
"In the end... given the government sin play in UK, US and other states (conservative right wing etc) I don't think its just a liberal or marxist thing. I just happen to wonder about whether these centre right governments are not quite happy to have a loony left looking utterly ridiculous as the people who then vote come out and vote for them... but then again it is probably more complicated than that as the left has been in bed with the big companies so theres little to choose between then on polling day tbh."
You by now I am sure know my position on Politics (We'll throw you an ideological bone but we're no different from the other party really)
Money and power.. are the only thing that creates factions in politics, who's turn it is at the trough, until recently.
A healthy society has left and right with an overlap, this overlap stops both left and right veering off into the extreme.
FYI, there were 6 Tory donors at a recent meeting in George Soros house, re that movement to warp British politics, to to the point where even Gina Miller has said **** that, I want a better brexit or not brexit but it must be democratic (if you have her saying that, this new movement she founded and has now left, must be planning some serious leftist horseshit)
"TBH I wonder about the whole war on terror and bush and blair's war and wonder if the faux patriotism has precipitated this or at last maybe allowed the people it suits to shut down dissenting voices to simulate this kind of stuff. It certainly has got to a point where never mind anything on the extreme right wing if you dare state a view thats not liberal enough you get your career and life ruined."
Interesting point, but I think this phenomena was started 40 years ago mate, and as marxist ideology festered in colleges and now, most professors in many areas are very left, as Marxism is appealing to academics who don't live in the read world.
The issue of war, the left wanted war, the BBC constantly marketed the Iraq war, in the US the Washington post and NYT lied America into war, two very lefty media sources. I don't think it is politically partisan.. Obama 8 years of war, and a Marxist to boot
We have to separate the results of wars from political ideology, I myself made those fallacious arguments years ago, until I applied some critical thinking, and I see many people who were opposed to my thoughts years ago, are now perpetuating the same ill thought out arguments
"In the end... given the government sin play in UK, US and other states (conservative right wing etc) I don't think its just a liberal or marxist thing. I just happen to wonder about whether these centre right governments are not quite happy to have a loony left looking utterly ridiculous as the people who then vote come out and vote for them... but then again it is probably more complicated than that as the left has been in bed with the big companies so theres little to choose between then on polling day tbh."
You by now I am sure know my position on Politics (We'll throw you an ideological bone but we're no different from the other party really)
Money and power.. are the only thing that creates factions in politics, who's turn it is at the trough, until recently.
A healthy society has left and right with an overlap, this overlap stops both left and right veering off into the extreme.
FYI, there were 6 Tory donors at a recent meeting in George Soros house, re that movement to warp British politics, to to the point where even Gina Miller has said **** that, I want a better brexit or not brexit but it must be democratic (if you have her saying that, this new movement she founded and has now left, must be planning some serious leftist horseshit)
yeh on that last point. Its probably going to be no more warped that what mogg and gove and johnson are doing pulling mays puppet strings.
There's MPs on both sides threatening to pull the whole house of cards down to get what they want. Self interest however means they wither hang together now or hang together at next election.
you have the hilarious situation now that the government hinges on the say so of a DUP leader who is not actually in westminister and is not even in an executive in NI. Though again theres faces behind her that probably pull the strings but didn't want to be seen to be sitting with sin fein in power sharing or are disgraced themsevles
The snap election here really blew up in the tories faces. May got the blame but i honestly think she's not the one calling these shots, if she was she would be gone by not.. just my opinion.
Seriously, wtf is going on in the UK.
You can be denied entry and detained for 3 days, then deported, simply because you came to interview Tommy Robinson
In Scotland, a youtuber (Count Dankula) has a court case, in court for a joke video. The bloke to who trained his dog to do Nazi salutes to piss off his girlfriend (the case is now running twice as long as the Nuremberg trials)
**** me lads, this is pure fascist insanity, the irony
Spare me diatribes about Robinson or Nazis, no one needs a history lesson. The left are going full censorship ******. Facebook twitter Google\youtube all at it.
You can't even have a speaking event in Kings College London without dudes in masks forcing their way in and threatening violence simply because they disagree with the speakers (A jewish dude (they were calling a nazi) and a classical British liberal)
Pure ****ing insanity. If you disagree with delusional progressive ideology on anything at all, you are attacked vilified and shut down and it's not just loonies, it's the government.
It's not just the UK, Ireland, the EU, Canada and Australia. It's Marxist dominated education that is the source of this anti intellectual, moronic progressive activism.
You don't have that kind of censorship here in Finland (yet).. but I don't see Nazis coming out of the woodwork.. bad ideas need to be heard so they can be refuted, not driven underground.
The strangest contradiction and insanity of the left I see today is, you can shut down or even brought to court for saying things that are inline with your religious beliefs, like Christians being against homosexuality... but.. if you subscribe to another religion you can openly speak about being against homosexuality.. and to criticise that, is Islamophobic, but to criticise a Christian for it is not Chistianophobic
This is pure self hatred from the left.
The left's alliance with political Sharia is ****ing scary.
How is this a "left" thing when we have a right wing government and you're talking about the rise of right wing ideologies? Your commitment to blindly blaming any problem on the left is astonishing.
(progressive) left, I am centre left, and quite left on many issues and lean conservative on some issues too, it's quite healthy and it is how most people are, truth be told.
Are you saying someone who is in the Tory party can't have some issues they lean progressive left on?
Seems extremely absolutist, someone being progressive left on EVERY issue, veers towards the extreme, like ideological Marxists for example
Just as someone who is to the right on EVERY issue will veer toward the extreme end.
With progressive right or left, every step they want to take is toward ideological purity (or they don't see it as "progression") That's why everyone who disagrees with a progressive leftists' point is a "nazi" or a "racist" or vice versa and you are a "communist"
Nuclear Weapons may have prevented us having a WWIII but they sure as hell have made that chicken in the Kremlin think he can get away with a lot of crap.
It would be nice if Putin and Trump had a one on one dual and just shot each other at the same time. The world would be a better place.
It would be nice if Putin and Trump had a one on one dual and just shot each other at the same time. The world would be a better place.
you actually think trump could even get a shot off
i know he says he is brave but vlad is kgb and eats brave for breakfast 
you actually think trump could even get a shot off
I'm pretty sure they would both cheat and have a second hiding in the bushes taking the real shot.
lol
Anything actually useful and sourced to add
Reminds me of a quote when the Berlin wall fell. "No longer can we lay the blame at Moscow's door"
NATO then went back on its agreement to not expand east, and has expanded right to Russia's border as a result. (not something you do unless you consider a state an enemy, Iran two faces this question) - Facts without actually picking a side might I add.
Nuclear weapons don't stop wars, have you not watched news in the last 70 years? Just because a war is not called a "world war", you'll find the US military bombing countries in more than one continent, and perpetually at war since Afghanistan, as in, every day since then.
Again facts, which don't have a spin or bias to them.
The wars between Russia\China\Iran\Israel\Britain\France\USA\Lebanon and so on are fought with proxies, and allied state support of proxies. Africa and the middle east are on fire. Nukes have not stopped that, all they have stopped are direct declarations of war on each other by those holding the nukes
It's really sad that you don't realise the tonnage of bombs dropped on civilians by the US airforce and it's allies, of US bombs in the past 20 years or how many civilians the proxies have massacred.
If you did, you'd see the threat to global stability is not Russia mostly, though they play their part, and are the big bogeyman used to sell weapons aplenty.
The sheer scale of Anglo elections interference, invasions and war, and civilians killed, bombs dropped and destabalisation of states, in the past 70 years, makes anything Russia has done in the same period rather pathetic.
I suspect this is where much of the progressive left's self hatred comes from.
Don't get pissy a partisan, it's just the reality, stop reading BBC and CNN
Point out anything Putin has done that is worse than what Britain France and the US did to Libya.. (With no UNSC mandate) where you can now buy a human for a few hundred dollars or what they are trying to do to Syria
lol
Anything actually useful and sourced to add
Reminds me of a quote when the Berlin wall fell. "No longer can we lay the blame at Moscow's door"
NATO then went back on its agreement to not expand east, and has expanded right to Russia's border as a result. (not something you do unless you consider a state an enemy, Iran two faces this question) - Facts without actually picking a side might I add.
Nuclear weapons don't stop wars, have you not watched news in the last 70 years? Just because a war is not called a "world war", you'll find the US military bombing countries in more than one continent, and perpetually at war since Afghanistan, as in, every day since then.
Again facts, which don't have a spin or bias to them.
The wars between Russia\China\Iran\Israel\Britain\France\USA\Lebanon and so on are fought with proxies, and allied state support of proxies. Africa and the middle east are on fire. Nukes have not stopped that, all they have stopped are direct declarations of war on each other by those holding the nukes
It's really sad that you don't realise the tonnage of bombs dropped on civilians by the US airforce and it's allies, of US bombs in the past 20 years or how many civilians the proxies have massacred.
If you did, you'd see the threat to global stability is not Russia mostly, though they play their part, and are the big bogeyman used to sell weapons aplenty.
The sheer scale of Anglo elections interference, invasions and war, and civilians killed, bombs dropped and destabalisation of states, in the past 70 years, makes anything Russia has done in the same period rather pathetic.
I suspect this is where much of the progressive left's self hatred comes from.
Don't get pissy a partisan, it's just the reality, stop reading BBC and CNN
Point out anything Putin has done that is worse than what Britain France and the US did to Libya.. (With no UNSC mandate) where you can now buy a human for a few hundred dollars or what they are trying to do to Syria
I don't know about you but I think invading two different countries and stealing territory is a pretty bad thing. Interfering in elections of democratic countries is a pretty bad thing. Turning towards 18th and 19th century laws against gays and bis (8-12% of a population) is a pretty bad thing.
Blaming "the jews" for your own actions is a pretty bad thing. Restarting the cold war and the threat at destruction to billions is a pretty bad thing. Creating videos showing your rivals demolished by nuclear weapons is a pretty bad and evil thing.
Stealing democracy away from your own country is a pretty bad thing. Having political rivals assassinated is a pretty bad thing. Goading other countries by regularly sending your aircraft into their territory to test their reactions is a pretty bad thing.
Taking away the freedom of the press is a pretty bad thing.... I could probably go on all day...
Trump and Putin are two sides of the same coin they're both hugely corrupt and evil. The main difference is Putin is successful and Trump's attempts to be like Putin keep getting thwarted. He would be Putin of he could.
The world would be a better place without both men.
lol
Anything actually useful and sourced to add
Reminds me of a quote when the Berlin wall fell. "No longer can we lay the blame at Moscow's door"
NATO then went back on its agreement to not expand east, and has expanded right to Russia's border as a result. (not something you do unless you consider a state an enemy, Iran two faces this question) - Facts without actually picking a side might I add.
Nuclear weapons don't stop wars, have you not watched news in the last 70 years? Just because a war is not called a "world war", you'll find the US military bombing countries in more than one continent, and perpetually at war since Afghanistan, as in, every day since then.
Again facts, which don't have a spin or bias to them.
The wars between Russia\China\Iran\Israel\Britain\France\USA\Lebanon and so on are fought with proxies, and allied state support of proxies. Africa and the middle east are on fire. Nukes have not stopped that, all they have stopped are direct declarations of war on each other by those holding the nukes
It's really sad that you don't realise the tonnage of bombs dropped on civilians by the US airforce and it's allies, of US bombs in the past 20 years or how many civilians the proxies have massacred.
If you did, you'd see the threat to global stability is not Russia mostly, though they play their part, and are the big bogeyman used to sell weapons aplenty.
The sheer scale of Anglo elections interference, invasions and war, and civilians killed, bombs dropped and destabalisation of states, in the past 70 years, makes anything Russia has done in the same period rather pathetic.
I suspect this is where much of the progressive left's self hatred comes from.
Don't get pissy a partisan, it's just the reality, stop reading BBC and CNN
Point out anything Putin has done that is worse than what Britain France and the US did to Libya.. (With no UNSC mandate) where you can now buy a human for a few hundred dollars or what they are trying to do to Syria
TBH..... the one thing historically going back centuries that gets any russians goat is boarder encroachment.
They have always considered the baltic states thier influence etc.
Nato has basically gone way past where one might consider safe in order to exploit russian weakness and provide a buffer zone. Maybe to right the wrongs with poland and such i don't know.
What russia has done in Crimea IMO is seeing weakness itself and pushing back. Ukraine is a direct sphere of influence state for russia. it looking west and joining nato or whatever is a huge issue for russia and its doing what it's doing on a level just under open war to push the bounds and see where it can get away with before an iron curtain falls again.
Just of course my opinion. weakness and counter weakness being played out over decades.