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He isn't exactly "today" either... He's more from a few decades ago... But I suppose there is "the rock" now.
Yes you're right.

If we are talking 'today', the film industry is filled with individuals with zero acting ability. Where to start? .... Adam Sandler, Jennifer Lopez, Robert Pattinson, Ben Affleck
 
Yes you're right.

If we are talking 'today', the film industry is filled with individuals with zero acting ability. Where to start? .... Adam Sandler, Jennifer Lopez, Robert Pattinson, Ben Affleck


None of them are quite as wooden as John Wayne though... I think that was just a 60's thing. Now they're bad in whole different ways.

Dont know who Pattinson is, but the other three did most of their acting quite a long time ago now too.

There are still LOTS of bad actors around, don't get me wrong, but the Shatners and John Waynes of the world today don't seem to get such an easy ride to the top.


Looked up Pattinson... Ok... Yeah... He's bad. Twilight was awful. Kirsten Stewart was a terrible actress too... That whole movie was full of bad acting all around. But she seems to have dropped out of the limelight... Didn't last too long.



Bad acting in the 60's almost had that... "I'm on a stage, overacting so the people in the back row can see my gestures and hear my tone clearly" feel. Bad acting today is more of a general non sincerity between what they say and how they... Well.. act.
 
One of the most miscast films of all time is The Conqueror, John Wayne as Genghis Khan, obviously filmed in Arizona as it is a John Huston film and he filmed all his westerns there.

Here is a sample, but it is worth watching the entire film as it is so bad

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i saw that. hilariously bad


then there was john wayne at the foot of the cross.

truly this man was the son of god....
..... partner.

anyone.remember that?


or the longest day. in a wheelbarrow or something waving his hand about.

wayne's best performances were in movies where he was very young or very old .true grit for the comedy value. sands of iwo jima etc.

thetr are wioden actors right diwn the history of film imo.

charlton heston
john wayne
my personal most hated keanu reeves
the list goes on.

studios get a guy who is easy to work with and sells and they pump them out imo.
 
He's still hugely popular today amongst some people and was so prolific. He's almost a genre unto himself. 100 years from now he might still be famous and "The Rock" or whoever the closest modern equivalent is will be forgotten.
Some people find it difficult to separate fact from fiction. I bet John Wayne has a huge following who actually believe he is a hero.
 
Clint Eastwood is a good example of someone who transitioned from a kind of decent actor into being a very good filmmaker, apart from his latest film which is trash <whistle>
 
Clint Eastwood is a good example of someone who transitioned from a kind of decent actor into being a very good filmmaker, apart from his latest film which is trash <whistle>

Yes, but he also directed or was in Gran Torino, Flags of our fathers, Letters from Iwo Jima, Mystic River, so many ace Spaghetti westerns. So you can forgive him the odd duff one. As a percentage of films he has either starred in or directed his record stands up to scrutiny.
 
Yes, but he also directed or was in Gran Torino, Flags of our fathers, Letters from Iwo Jima, Mystic River, so many ace Spaghetti westerns. So you can forgive him the odd duff one. As a percentage of films he has either starred in or directed his record stands up to scrutiny.

Did I not just call him 'a very good filmmaker' ??!! <doh>