Things We Think We Think #289

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originallambrettaman said:
8. Marco Silva has been sacked by Watford. This shouldn’t be surprising, given the Watford hierarchy’s notorious impatience with head coaches in recent years. And it’s true that Silva was on a bad run and seemed to have been distracted fatally by interest shown in him by Everton a few weeks back. Yet we know he is quality. And with two weeks of the transfer window left and 18 games of the season to come, what would we give for him to be parachuted back in and asked basically to repeat the revival he instigated when all seemed to be lost little more than a year ago? Yes, we still got relegated under him, but without him we’d have been relegated in March. Our squad is not without talent, and Silva is not without the charisma and the character to do a persuasion job on Ehab Allam in a way akin to that regularly done by Steve Bruce on Assem. It’s doable in theory, but of course, not in practice. It will remain a mere pipe dream – not only will the Allams not entertain the idea of sacking Adkins so quickly after appointing him, but we can’t imagine they have high regard for Silva after he dared to see greener grass than that which they supplied for him at the beginning of 2017. On top of that, Silva will not have a lot of enthusiasm for coming to a club trying to avoid hurtling through the club’s second tier, and even a man of his self-belief won’t like risking two straight relegations on his CV with the same club, even though neither of them would be his fault. He’s better than us now – or, at least, he’s better than what we represent under the toxic regime of the Allams
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A totally pointless paragraph.
 
PLT said:
Toral, Evandro and Irvine. Allegedly Henriksen too. Not many clubs have three players of the quality of those first three to pick from. In a 4-4-2 you could maybe squeeze one of them in out wide but that's it.
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Aye, tbh it was a tad tongue-in-cheek as the brief glimpses of their abilities have been easily forgotten.

We should be doing better with this squad of players, even with the injury sagas.

Slutsky lost us a lot of valuable ground, it was down to him, he was a square peg in the wrong hole. Adkins has inherited ****e in terms of preparation and team moral, unfortunately he seems determined to carry on the tradition - I wasn’t over the moon about his appointment, but I honestly expected better.
 
DJBlackandamberarmy(No4) said:
Nobody really cares outside hull ,,on Talksport on Saturday , they touched on our game briefly and all Joey Barton said was appointing an unknown Russian was asking for trouble and only got ourselves to blame if we go down , completely oblivious or uninterested in the other 100 reasons
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That's cos Joey Barton's a ****ing idiot.
 
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SimonGraysJacket said:
A double relegation will highlight further (if needed) to the rest of the football world, just what a basket case our club is thanks to our wonderfully inept owners. The more we can sully the Allam name the better in the sort term IMO.
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So are you saying a double relegation is to be welcomed then? How does going down again help our chances of attracting new owners? I desperately want them out of this club like everyone else but cant see how the complete negativity and giving up on supporting the team that plenty say they have done is helping our cause. It's just extending the misery! Last time I looked, Sunderland were below us, similarly unable to invest, similarly hacked off with their owner, and yet 25,000 still turning up. Which club would you rather invest in as a new buyer?
 
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DJBlackandamberarmy(No4) said:
Nobody really cares outside hull ,,on Talksport on Saturday , they touched on our game briefly and all Joey Barton said was appointing an unknown Russian was asking for trouble and only got ourselves to blame if we go down , completely oblivious or uninterested in the other 100 reasons
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Is that the same Joey Barton who said sacking John Flanagan for being convicted of battering his girlfriend in a sustained assault would be hypocritical because Liverpool didn’t sack Ferminho for being over the limit?.

Or Gerard for not being sacked for being found not guilty of common assault in a nightclub?

The man is an absolute tool.
 
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kingstontiger said:
So are you saying a double relegation is to be welcomed then? How does going down again help our chances of attracting new owners? I desperately want them out of this club like everyone else but cant see how the complete negativity and giving up on supporting the team that plenty say they have done is helping our cause. It's just extending the misery! Last time I looked, Sunderland were below us, similarly unable to invest, similarly hacked off with their owner, and yet 25,000 still turning up. Which club would you rather invest in as a new buyer?
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Not to mention having a 48,000 stadium they own compared to a rented 25,000 one shared with a rugby league club.
 
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kingstontiger said:
So are you saying a double relegation is to be welcomed then? How does going down again help our chances of attracting new owners? I desperately want them out of this club like everyone else but cant see how the complete negativity and giving up on supporting the team that plenty say they have done is helping our cause. It's just extending the misery! Last time I looked, Sunderland were below us, similarly unable to invest, similarly hacked off with their owner, and yet 25,000 still turning up. Which club would you rather invest in as a new buyer?
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They'd cost more to buy than us.
 
kingstontiger said:
So are you saying a double relegation is to be welcomed then? How does going down again help our chances of attracting new owners?
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It would devalue the club further and would open the market to more potential buyers, including local people.

Btw, I'm not agreeing that relegation is to be welcomed, just pointing out the above.
 
Rigsby said:
It would devalue the club further and would open the market to more potential buyers, including local people.

Btw, I'm not agreeing that relegation is to be welcomed, just pointing out the above.
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Adam Pearson tried for years to get locals involved. Not a chance.
 
Rigsby said:
It would devalue the club further and would open the market to more potential buyers, including local people.

Btw, I'm not agreeing that relegation is to be welcomed, just pointing out the above.
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Inclined to disagree with that bit in bold. A club not owning it's ground with no more assets in the lower leagues will be almost unsellable. There will be big costs just to keep on operating as a football club and the losses will just pile up. Unless a real rich sugar daddy (or woman) turns up to pay those costs and invest loads to get us back to where the big income is we will be in the **** for a long time yet. Also there are other more attractive options to buy if anyone really wanted a football club.
 
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balkan tiger said:
Inclined to disagree with that bit in bold. A club not owning it's ground with no more assets in the lower leagues will be almost unsellable. There will be big costs just to keep on operating as a football club and the losses will just pile up. Unless a real rich sugar daddy (or woman) turns up to pay those costs and invest loads to get us back to where the big income is we will be in the **** for a long time yet. Also there are other more attractive options to buy if anyone really wanted a football club.
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Castro will be along to point out it's where it should have been its.

What you say is spot on.
 
Rigsby said:
It would devalue the club further and would open the market to more potential buyers, including local people.

Btw, I'm not agreeing that relegation is to be welcomed, just pointing out the above.
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And how many local people were interested when Adam Pearson stepped in?
How many have shown any interest since the Needlers?
Only a couple of local people have the money to fund a club capable of getting back to the top level and being capable of staying there. Unfortunately, it is well documented that they are not interested.
 
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