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Transfer Rumours The January 2018 Transfer Window Thread

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by KIO, Dec 15, 2017.

  1. Forgot_My_Lines

    Forgot_My_Lines Well-Known Member

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    It makes sense, that move. They look like they have a real chance of staying up. They have millions coming in. He's a really talented player. Definitely Premiership quality. It feels like a Brady to Burnley type move.

    I really, really want us to keep him. No matter how much money we bring in, most of the money will disappear. We wont replace him. At the moment our club is staying up due to Pritchard and Maddison.
     
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  2. RiverEndRick

    RiverEndRick Well-Known Member

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    We're justified in holding out for big money on either Pritchard or Maddison. We paid £8m for Pritchard as a Championship team, one from the PL now should expect to pay at least twice that. We don't have to sell.
     
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  3. Walsh.i.am

    Walsh.i.am Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Well, we did alright by holding out for as long as poss over the sales of Snodgrass, Fer & Brady.
    And Jacob M, (but that was different as he cost us nothing in the first place)
    IMHO, Pritchard, given his age, talent and undoubted (sadly) further potential will be highly sought after this - and subsequent windows, if we can cling on to him beyond this one.
    But with the insane amounts of money to PL sides have to splash around these days, damned right we should hold on for top dollar $$ <ok>
     
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  4. RiverEndRick

    RiverEndRick Well-Known Member

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    I've just looked at the archant article and they are simply reporting a rumour put out by the Mirror, so not much conviction in that one then. I'll need something more definite than that to believe there's anything in it.
     
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  5. JM Fan

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    According to an article in today's EDP, DF is quoted as saying he doesn't have to sell in this window (I'll believe that in just over 4 weeks' time) and that is more under the control of SW anyway.
     
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  6. RiverEndRick

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    You're right about not knowing the final situation until the window is over, but there will be countless false rumours until then. Editorial deadline pressure will guarantee that. SW has consistently said that DF has the final say on any transfers.
     
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  9. Forgot_My_Lines

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    Norwich City doesn't often work like that.
     
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  10. RiverEndRick

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    We did very well with the Snodgrass, Fer, Brady and Jacob transfers. Every player has his price, but we don't need to sell, so they will have to make silly offers to prise any player away.
     
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  11. Walsh.i.am

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    See comment number #123 <ok>
     
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  12. RiverEndRick

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    Yes I know, Cromer, but apparently FML didn't read it. Howson wasn't such a good deal, but then that was to a Championship side and we made a good saving on his wages. I thought we'd miss him more than we have done, but I'd rather have Trybull now.
     
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  13. Forgot_My_Lines

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    Yea, I’ve read it all thanks. I remember the times we didn’t sell for a loss, and all the times we have/released on free.

    Apparently you have never read any of that .
     
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  14. RiverEndRick

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    Our problem in recent years has been an
    older squad of players on high wages and without much sell on value. Yes it was difficult to see the likes of Ruddy and Bennett go for free but no one wanted to pay both a fee and their wages. The same will probably be true with Naismith but that was gamble to try to keep us in the PL. I doubt that will ever happen with SW.

    We now have a much younger (and hungrier) squad, assembled very shrewdly and economically by SW and DF as a stable means of moving forward. It is a huge restructuring and there have been teething problems, but there's also a host of young players coming through to follow in the steps of the Murphy's and Maddison. Lewis has just done that and Godfrey and others will follow soon.
     
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    It's on other surces as well, but I still don't beliefve it!!
     
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  16. JM Fan

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    Just seen that Huddersfield are not prepared to increase their offer for Pritchard, so the deal's off.
     
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  17. JM Fan

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    Good post Rick.
    We have some VERY good YOUNG players coming through and I'll stick my neck out and say that we'll finish in the top 10! this season
    Play-off places are no more than a faint hope IMO.
     
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    Apparently Rangers will try to sign "31 year old defensive beast", so says the 4th Official. Who could that be we wonder? Oh, Russ Martin?
     
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  19. General Melchett

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    I have to say that it is a bit of a leap to say shrewdly at this point and whilst I don't know the details of Hanleys contract, it seemed to me and many observers like an expensive knee jerk to the woeful early defensive efforts so ecomonically might be a leap too.
    Many of these younger hungry players were here already, so far I would say SW and DF have been as much miss as hit with transfers, time will tell with many. But here's the incomers and my thoughts on how shrewd the business was:

    Gunn (loan) Undeniably good business, a keeper whilst inexperienced that quite simply is a quality above what we have any prospect of paying for under the current financial constraints Shrewd

    Reed (loan) OK business, the jury is still out on Reed for my money. He is undoubtedly talented but, when he plays it means Tettey isn't there and we look weak Juries out

    Watkins (Free) OK so he was free, but looks terrible within our system or just terrible. His wages could be better spent elsewhere on evidence so far Waste of a shirt

    Zimmermann (Free) For a free an excellent bit of business, currently looks 3rd choice behind Hanley and Klose, but on a free and likely on low wages definitely Shrewd

    Trybull (free)
    For a free an excellent bit of business, a very good player when supported by Tettey, but unfortunitely like most of his teammates goes missing when Tettey isn't there. Shrewd

    Franke £3m
    So poor has been Marcel thus far that he has already been sent out on loan and the reason we had to shell out money we didn't have on Hanley Poor business

    Husband £1.13m So far has shown little to suggest that he is anything better than a pretty average backup to the finally fit again Lewis. As I assume he was supposed to be our first choice but isn't good enough I have to say Poor business (though he was cheap)

    Vrancic 0.75m So far has flattered to deceive, some excellent touches and there is undeniable talent, but if he is in the team we will play worse. The managers persistence in the hope he adjusts to the British game is admirable in someways but play Vrancic and it costs points Poor business (though he was cheap)

    Stieperman £1.7m Has put some useful shifts in during the unbeaten run at FB, is versatile and has limited oportunity in his prefered position. I question whether he is good enough to play in midfield as he cannot get a game there even when we have struggled and plainly isn't a FB. As a utility player he is a useful squad man, not sure I would say this was entirely shrewd business but not bad either. Juries out

    Hanley £3.8m
    A panic buy after our horror start, but a good player at this level none the less. The question is did we have to pay more than we should in wages to get him? Klose and Zimmerman have formed a good partnership that means even though he is a good player was this truely good business with Raggett still to come in too? I can't call it shrewd because you pay more (Possibly more than the budget and wage structure was designed to allow) and you will get a better player. No coincidence that a more expensive, championship hardened player could hit the ground running. Decent business, maybe not shrewd

    Raggett £0.27m
    Well thought of but we haven't even seen him near a city shirt so the Juries out
    Abrahams £0.27m
    Well thought of but we haven't even seen him near a city shirt so the Juries out
    Savvas Mourgos Und
    Well thought of but we haven't even seen him near a city shirt so the Juries out
    Power nominal fee
    Well thought of but we haven't even seen him near a city shirt so the Juries out

    (Source transfermarkt, accuracy on numbers maybe questionable)

    So for me 3 bits of business coming in look shrewd, for most the juries out with some poor business too. Ultimately Gunn is the only player who has come in and shone. The other leading lights were all here already.
    Getting rid of players who were out of contract was easy and obvious. Extending Russ's contract and a failure to get some other expensive flops out the door mean Webber has not exactly pulled up trees. So whilst I trust him the Jury is still out.
    Farke the Jury is still out on, but inspite of the dull, goal shy stuff so far, I'm still just about supportive of him. Chopping and changing all the time doesn't work, building with a degree of continuity is the way forward, but as I questioned with both Hughton and Neil, is Farke going to bring the right way forward? As long as Webber is here we should have some continuity of thought and policy so I will trust to him, to keep/sack Farke as necessary and replace him if it comes to that, with someone who may get better out of the players but will also be looking to play with a similar ethos.

    Shrewd? Not convinced on the evidence so far, Economically after Hanley, no.

    Bah!
     
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  20. CitySlicker2010

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    NCFC have reportedly turned down £8.5m from Huddersfield for Pritchard. Either we are hoping that another club will bid more or DF statement about not having to sell is true. As we are very unlikely to get promotion this season then I can’t see how holding on to him is going to be to our advantage. He turned down going to Brighton to come to us so he may very well agitate to get transferred. Also, how on earth do Sunderland expect Naismith to get them out of trouble? Still if they are prepared to give us some dosh then who are we to complain?
     
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