Transfer Rumours January 2018 Transfer Window

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The Liebherr Legacy said:
Or we could already be speaking to managers so won't sack him without having someone ready to step in.
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We could be, yeah. If we are, we'd have to be absolutely certain that the new guy is likely to oversee an instant improvement in performances. I don't really subscribe to the view that a 'new manager bounce' is either inevitable or very likely.

Statistically, teams that replace their managers mid season tend to get relegated. Well, when I say 'statistically', I don't have those statistics to hand. It happens a lot though.
 
Archers Road said:
We could be, yeah. If we are, we'd have to be absolutely certain that the new guy is likely to oversee an instant improvement in performances. I don't really subscribe to the view that a 'new manager bounce' is either inevitable or very likely.

Statistically, teams that replace their managers mid season tend to get relegated. Well, when I say 'statistically', I don't have those statistics to hand. It happens a lot though.
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That sounds an awful lot like my 'statistically you're better off finishing second in the championship' stat, I've never actually checked it out but it seems to be they perform better alot <laugh>

For every team that changes manager and goes down, there's a team who changes and will see a huge improvement.
 
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The Liebherr Legacy said:
That sounds an awful lot like my 'statistically you're better off finishing second in the championship' stat, I've never actually checked it out but it seems to be they perform better alot <laugh>

For every team that changes manager and goes down, there's a team who changes and will see a huge improvement.
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Every team that appoints Sam Allardyce seems to get a huge improvement. Unfortunately, we've missed that particular boat. There's still Pulis though...
 
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Archers Road said:
Every team that appoints Sam Allardyce seems to get a huge improvement. Unfortunately, we've missed that particular boat. There's still Pulis though...
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. I have never got why some people don't rate him , as a manager , I get that he seems a bit full of himself , but what is wrong with that ?
 
Number 1 Jasper said:
. I have never got why some people don't rate him , as a manager , I get that he seems a bit full of himself , but what is wrong with that ?
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What, Allardyce? He always seems to get results. He's been criticised - not least by West Ham's supporters - for playing a pretty 'direct' game, but I think that's unfair. He's cut his cloth to suit his means, and has shown himself to be pretty versatile when he has had the players available to him.
 
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Archers Road said:
What, Allardyce? He always seems to get results. He's been criticised - not least by West Ham's supporters - for playing a pretty 'direct' game, but I think that's unfair. He's cut his cloth to suit his means, and has shown himself to be pretty versatile when he has had the players available to him.
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Would be a good shout for the England job...
 
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Archers Road said:
What, Allardyce? He always seems to get results. He's been criticised - not least by West Ham's supporters - for playing a pretty 'direct' game, but I think that's unfair. He's cut his cloth to suit his means, and has shown himself to be pretty versatile when he has had the players available to him.
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Yes Allardyce . I don't know a single fan ( that I actually know ) west hams us , and a few Bournemouth supporters that have any time for him . Weird .
 
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Number 1 Jasper said:
Yes Allardyce . I don't know a single fan ( that I actually know ) west hams us , and a few Bournemouth supporters that have any time for him . Weird .
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Got sacked from Newcastle for the horrendous run of results up to Xmas ......he got called into the office expecting to be told of an incoming player......instead he was told he was being replaced by Kevin Keegan.
 
Archers Road said:
What, Allardyce? He always seems to get results. He's been criticised - not least by West Ham's supporters - for playing a pretty 'direct' game, but I think that's unfair. He's cut his cloth to suit his means, and has shown himself to be pretty versatile when he has had the players available to him.
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If I remember correctly, he had Bolton playing some decent football, before he left them, but for me, it’s his “take the player and/or the ball” attitude I have never warmed to. He’s definitely effective. As is Neil (Colin) Warnock in the lower leagues. Nobody likes him but he’s in with a shout of his 8th promotion.
Not saying I would want him here, should we go down, but he certainly knows how to bring teams up.
 
Skylarker said:
Anyway I didn't think you lot wanted to deal with us anymore? <laugh>

Gotta love how fickle fans are. Me included btw.
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got no problem with dealing with Liverpool, keep paying over the odds and our little black box will keep on finding players for you to buy. You did rob us on Mane though
 
Archers Road said:
All total conjecture of course, but ss things stand at the moment, I'd be quite happy with that outcome (apart from Walcott getting injured). After finishing 15th, the club can then decide the manager's future, having given him a full season.

Alternatively, we could sack him next week with no replacement lined up, and see what that gets us.
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Why would we have no replacement lined up?
 
Archers Road said:
We could be, yeah. If we are, we'd have to be absolutely certain that the new guy is likely to oversee an instant improvement in performances. I don't really subscribe to the view that a 'new manager bounce' is either inevitable or very likely.

Statistically, teams that replace their managers mid season tend to get relegated. Well, when I say 'statistically', I don't have those statistics to hand. It happens a lot though.
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I think that statistic should really be the other way round. 'Statistically, teams that change their managers were in danger of relegation, and so sacked the manager.'

The relegation danger led to the manager change, not the other way around.
 
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Paddy Podped said:
I think that statistic should really be the other way round. 'Statistically, teams that change their managers were in danger of relegation, and so sacked the manager.'

The relegation danger led to the manager change, not the other way around.
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Yeah, I understand that. Nonetheless, there's no conclusive evidence either way as to whether sacking a manager mid season means a team is more or less likely to get relegated. We had three managers in our PL relegation season, and two when we dropped out of the Championship.
 
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