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None of you have pointed out Corbyn said the other day,no second referendum out means out and you're 600 votes short on MPs now.<laugh> get over it you lost.End of,fact.<whistle>
 
lifecheshirewhite said:
None of you have pointed out Corbyn said the other day,no second referendum out means out and you're 600 votes short on MPs now.<laugh> get over it you lost.End of,fact.<whistle>
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Not according to the Torygraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...rule-second-eu-referendum-labour-gains-power/

Corbyn's position is pretty clear - step back, respect the democratic will as it is at present and allow the Tories to own Brexit and when it all crashes in on them be ready to step in and clear the mess.

If there's support for a second referendum then there will be one because there's no way he would throw away the chance of getting Labour in power over the issue.
 
dbc said:
Not according to the Torygraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...rule-second-eu-referendum-labour-gains-power/

Corbyn's position is pretty clear - step back, respect the democratic will as it is at present and allow the Tories to own Brexit and when it all crashes in on them be ready to step in and clear the mess.

If there's support for a second referendum then there will be one because there's no way he would throw away the chance of getting Labour in power over the issue.
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So now you're saying he's lying <laugh> keep a tight hold of them straws,you're getting desperate now.
 
lifecheshirewhite said:
So now you're saying he's lying <laugh> keep a tight hold of them straws,you're getting desperate now.
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Where did I say he's lying?

'The Labour leader said his party was “not advocating” another vote on EU membership, but stopped short of ruling it out altogether.'

All seems pretty consistent with what I posted above?
 
dbc said:
Where did I say he's lying?

'The Labour leader said his party was “not advocating” another vote on EU membership, but stopped short of ruling it out altogether.'

All seems pretty consistent with what I posted above?
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You obviously didn't see what he said,no second vote,that's it, no code, no lies,all the rest is just your straw clutching.
 
lifecheshirewhite said:
So do you not understand (rules out a second referendum)seems pretty straightforward to me,post some straws,lets see what you're clutching at.<doh>
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I'm sure it does seem pretty straight forward to you but the fact that from the same quote/interview the Telegraph draws exactly the opposite headline
Jeremy Corbyn fails to rule out second EU referendum if Labour gains power suggests that it's not.

If he had said 'I can categorically say there will be no second referendum'or 'there will be no second referendum whilst I'm the leader of the Labour party' I would agree but by saying 'our position is that we are not advocating a second referendum' he's left himself and the party lots of room for maneuver.

He is fully aware of the risks involved in seeming to be opposing democratic will but also at the same time that if the democratic will changes there would be risks in opposing that especially if it means opposing his party and supporters and electorate https://www.theguardian.com/politic...d-abandon-party-over-brexit-stance-poll-finds

So that's why for now he sits back, lets the Tories own this Brexit.
 
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dbc said:
I'm sure it does seem pretty straight forward to you by the fact that from the same quote/interview the Telegraph draws exactly the opposite headline
Jeremy Corbyn fails to rule out second EU referendum if Labour gains power suggests that it's not.

If he had said 'I can categorically say there will be no second referendum'or 'there will be no second referendum whilst I'm the leader of the Labour party' I would agree but by saying 'our position is that we are not advocating a second referendum' he's left himself and the party lots of room for maneuver.

He is fully aware of the risks involved in seeming to be opposing democratic will but also at the same time that if the democratic will changes there would be risks in opposing that especially if it means opposing his party and supporters and electorate https://www.theguardian.com/politic...d-abandon-party-over-brexit-stance-poll-finds

So that's why for now he sits back, lets the Tories own this Brexit.
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Dbc takes the lead thanks to a spectacular chesh own goal....
 
lifecheshirewhite said:
NO REFERENDUM look it up doesn't mean might be.<doh> suck it up losers.<laugh>
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Ok find me the quote where he says NO REFERENDUM from the last few days.

If you find you can't feel free to come back and I can happily try again to explain the difference between 'no referendum' and 'not advocating a second referendum'
 
dbc said:
Ok find me the quote where he says NO REFERENDUM from the last few days.

If you find you can't feel free to come back and I can happily try again to explain the difference between 'no referendum' and 'not advocating a second referendum'
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Still not half time and dbc cruises into a 2 goal lead. So far plenty of shots from Chesh but none on target
 
dbc said:
I'm sure it does seem pretty straight forward to you but the fact that from the same quote/interview the Telegraph draws exactly the opposite headline
Jeremy Corbyn fails to rule out second EU referendum if Labour gains power suggests that it's not.

If he had said 'I can categorically say there will be no second referendum'or 'there will be no second referendum whilst I'm the leader of the Labour party' I would agree but by saying 'our position is that we are not advocating a second referendum' he's left himself and the party lots of room for maneuver.

He is fully aware of the risks involved in seeming to be opposing democratic will but also at the same time that if the democratic will changes there would be risks in opposing that especially if it means opposing his party and supporters and electorate https://www.theguardian.com/politic...d-abandon-party-over-brexit-stance-poll-finds

So that's why for now he sits back, lets the Tories own this Brexit.
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So the commy is not advocating a second vote.but he can do so because you want to think that.please produce your facts to back up your claim.it all seems pure fantasy to me.
 
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