Newcastle Takeover

[Nads]

How about if they were put on performance related pay?
Like piece work in industry?
You turn more parts out, lay more bricks, you get more money.
If you're a lazy **** & can't be arsed to put some effort in you get your flat rate.
That's the way it works in factories.

Be a dream scenario mate we’d have a low wage bill!

Again, how do you gauge that though? And still de Bryne would be best player in league and want to play for a top club.

I think clubs and all of us need to accept the game isn’t going to return to the past, and clubs need to work on improving themselves in the right way, or finding ownership who can.

Not a lot is gonna changed realistically.

 

[Billy Death]

Be a dream scenario mate we’d have a low wage bill!

Again, how do you gauge that though? And still de Bryne would be best player in league and want to play for a top club.

I think clubs and all of us need to accept the game isn’t going to return to the past, and clubs need to work on improving themselves in the right way, or finding ownership who can.

Not a lot is gonna changed realistically.

Aye, sadly you are correct.

 

[marcusblackcat]

I imagine that we'll have our own takeover news in due course. A few wins under Coleman and Ellis might be looking to get out with the threat of a second relegation abating. If we continue to struggle at the bottom it won't happen, but we live in hope. In the meantime, NUFC have relegation issues themselves, judging from MOTD last night. Any new owners will have to give Rafa some proper dosh asap...

They never get booed off though - been on their board and they are adamant that they haven't been booed off this season (well before Saturday anyhow!!)

 

[Billy Death]

They never get booed off though - been on their board and they are adamant that they haven't been booed off this season (well before Saturday anyhow!!)

Booed off at half time and full time v Watford.

 

[marcusblackcat]

Booed off at half time and full time v Watford.

No that can't be true - it doesn't happen at their stadium. All their fans love the club and support no matter what......

 

[Woody]

Yeah I get that side mate, but has he made any real disasterous appointments? Kinnear yeah but the rest all either did OK or looked OK.

I think it’ll be good for you if for no other reason than to remove the cloud that hangs over him, I’m not convinced it’s gonna have a huge impact on the pitch.

Dont agree that two relegations are a sign of a poor owner .. he stuck by his team and got them back the next season ... that takes a bit of courage and determination. Not sure the signs are that Short has that ... although we hope Coleman is the turning point.

 

[Brian Storm]

They never get booed off though - been on their board and they are adamant that they haven't been booed off this season (well before Saturday anyhow!!)

No they just left early this time.

 

[polyphemus]

In short, if this takeover happens, a franchise playing in black and white in the west end of Newcastle will be doing exceedingly well and I will perhaps lose even more interest in the club and the game.

Easy answer, point yourself just twelve miles southwards where I expect we will still be scraping our collective backsides along the sand and watch 'proper football'.

You will find that converts seeking the way of the true Fan are always welcome.

 

[fredor]

Aye it’s such a grey area mate, even with a salary cap, only the top players would get the top level anyway and they’d STILL want to go to the bigger clubs, so would it make a difference?

For all that clubs are struggling, there are also many positives from the massive money etc, most of the money remains TV money coming in from News Corp (Sky) into the game and into communities, that’s a good thing.

Let’s not forget where City where, that takeover could have happened to more or less anyone in reality, City had the fortune that Etihad Airlines hub out of Manchester.

I still maintain that apart from the diving and cheating football is a far better game to watch than it was 20 years back, money has aided the game for me not killed it, we just wish the distribution was a bit more even.

United lead the way setting up a proper marketing team and bringing Asian money, the PL themselves followed and absolutely nailed this route.

Any club can put together a great PR team if they recruit and pay correctly and that’s one way to compete.

Many of the top products are in reality little better than the ‘average’, they are just marketed right. I won’t have anything but an iPhone, despite knowing for a fact Samsung phones are as good, arguably better, but cheaper.

I work for a company with a marketing budget that is over £1.3million per day. That’s how you get and stay on top and almost any club in the top 2 leagues could grow that way.

Problem with that is how can they? How can they tell a company what it can pay its employees effectively?

Effectively a football club is a private owned business for the most part. They couldn’t get away with it, it would be challenged and they would lose that challenge.

I agree it would open the game up and be a good thing, it simply isn’t feasible.

It is the EPL that call the shots and the rules apply to every club , if they decide a figure of X million pounds is the maximum each club can pay all of its players each season , so be it, each club must then decide how much they want to pay each player and still stay under the cap, this is purely based on salary/wages not transfer fees , a restriction but leading to a more level playing field and more interesting and changing scenario where a manager earns his coin

 

[Nads]

It is the EPL that call the shots and the rules apply to every club , if they decide a figure of X million pounds is the maximum each club can pay all of its players each season , so be it, each club must then decide how much they want to pay each player and still stay under the cap, this is purely based on salary/wages not transfer fees , a restriction but leading to a more level playing field and more interesting and changing scenario where a manager earns his coin

There’d be a breakaway league in a matter of hours mate.

There’s already the FA and FL, if the big clubs dug in, for all the ‘we can’t conpete’ Talk the rest would go with them because they know the draw money in.

It simply isn’t going to happen imo, clubs need to find ways to get to their level, not to drag them back.

 

[E.T. Fairfax]

It is the EPL that call the shots and the rules apply to every club , if they decide a figure of X million pounds is the maximum each club can pay all of its players each season , so be it, each club must then decide how much they want to pay each player and still stay under the cap, this is purely based on salary/wages not transfer fees , a restriction but leading to a more level playing field and more interesting and changing scenario where a manager earns his coin

Imagine going to an auction with a tenner in your pocket, everybody else turning up has less cash, and a dirty evening with a stunning model comes up. Before bidding starts you are told that the maximum bid allowable is £5 and by the end she walks off with somebody else whilst you are waving your hard earned tenner in the air. You are gonna feel a little peeved.

 

[David Moyes' Stupid Face]

Imagine going to an auction with a tenner in your pocket, everybody else turning up has less cash, and a dirty evening with a stunning model comes up. Before bidding starts you are told that the maximum bid allowable is £5 and by the end she walks off with somebody else whilst you are waving your hard earned tenner in the air. You are gonna feel a little peeved.

I just want to know where these auctions are

 

[fredor]

There’d be a breakaway league in a matter of hours mate.

There’s already the FA and FL, if the big clubs dug in, for all the ‘we can’t conpete’ Talk the rest would go with them because they know the draw money in.

It simply isn’t going to happen imo, clubs need to find ways to get to their level, not to drag them back.

The total figure of the cap for each club would exclude any but the EPL, a massive pool of money the same as it is now but spread more evenly, but we can continue the way things are and not expect any success of significance

All it takes for nothing to change is for everyone to do nothing

It is a fact of life the gap between the haves and have nots widens each and every year
Anyone that thinks this will not be mirrored in football is just fooling themselves

 

[fredor]

There’d be a breakaway league in a matter of hours mate.

There’s already the FA and FL, if the big clubs dug in, for all the ‘we can’t conpete’ Talk the rest would go with them because they know the draw money in.

It simply isn’t going to happen imo, clubs need to find ways to get to their level, not to drag them back.

We already are at their level in everything but wealth, that is a completely different category and all the endeavour in the world will never change it, not one person I have spoken to is satisfied with the setup at present where success is bought by a wealthy few, far better if it had to be earned, so any move to correct the imbalance would at least have popularity on their side

 

[fredor]

Imagine going to an auction with a tenner in your pocket, everybody else turning up has less cash, and a dirty evening with a stunning model comes up. Before bidding starts you are told that the maximum bid allowable is £5 and by the end she walks off with somebody else whilst you are waving your hard earned tenner in the air. You are gonna feel a little peeved.

Hang about a bit !!!!! you all have the same amount of money to spend, so if they spend their money first, you are able to snap up Rodwell at a bargain price

 

[ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter]

Easy answer, point yourself just twelve miles southwards where I expect we will still be scraping our collective backsides along the sand and watch 'proper football'.

You will find that converts seeking the way of the true Fan are always welcome.

Well, I have always had a soft spot for Sunderland and I do admire the support that they receive in the North Durham area. But I would rather Sunderland get back into the top flight than stay 'one down' because the North East needs at least two clubs doing well.

It's the state of the game that concerns me overall rather than the individual clubs though when each goes all Franchise then I will have no time for that particular club.