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NowsufferinginSpain said:
Sorry, but apart from the Newcastle game, they were 2-0 up against us - at home. Who bottled that one??
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You were 1-0 up against Chelsea twice and drew one and lost the other, we were in our worst run of form and there for the taking and drew but should have won. 2-1 up against WBA at home and lost. Lost 3-1 to Blackpool when they were in free-fall. To your credit you picked up several points from losing positions, i.e Sunderland away, Liverpool at home, Arsenal at home.

United were 3-1 up in the 90th minute and threw it away by conceding 2 stoppage time goals, Arsenal were torn to pieces when they did that against you guys.
 
We were 1-0 up against you twice and none of your goals should've counted.
That's not mental weakness, it's **** refereeing.

We didn't lose to West Brom either, we drew.
 
Pool lack coordinated movement thro mid-field and will struggle against top teams and teams such as Stoke who crowd and close down fast in mid-field
Gooners?? that is the worst gooner performance in terms of individual skills and worse in terms of winning attitude for many years

Pool top six
Gooners mid-table
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
We were 1-0 up against you twice and none of your goals should've counted.
That's not mental weakness, it's **** refereeing.

We didn't lose to West Brom either, we drew.
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You went 1-0 up due to shocking officiating in which Defoe should have been flagged offside and at SB you went 1-0 to shocking officiating whereby a throw should have been awarded to us, your goal resulted in that poor call.

Officiating was bad for both sides. At WHL, Gomes should have been red carded and had he been we would have taken a penalty against an outfield Spurs player. At SB, we had a clear penalty not given which would have resulted in a red card for Younes Kaboul
 
District Line said:
You went 1-0 up due to shocking officiating in which Defoe should have been flagged offside and at SB you went 1-0 to shocking officiating whereby a throw should have been awarded to us, your goal resulted in that poor call.

Officiating was bad for both sides. At WHL, Gomes should have been red carded and had he been we would have taken a penalty against an outfield Spurs player. At SB, we had a clear penalty not given which would have resulted in a red card for Younes Kaboul
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Our goal at WHL shouldn't have been given, I admit that.
Our goal at Stamford Bridge was fine, though.
It came off your man last.

Your delusions about Gomes getting a red card, when your player was clearly going well wide and some mythical penalty at Stamford Bridge are wonderful but baseless, I'm afraid.

Feel free to use the term 'shocking officiating' for any decision that goes against you, though.
It makes you seem extremely credible.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Our goal at WHL shouldn't have been given, I admit that.
Our goal at Stamford Bridge was fine, though.
It came off your man last.

Your delusions about Gomes getting a red card, when your player was clearly going well wide and some mythical penalty at Stamford Bridge are wonderful but baseless, I'm afraid.

Feel free to use the term 'shocking officiating' for any decision that goes against you, though.
It makes you seem extremely credible.
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It wasn't, Ramires would simply of had to tap the ball into an empty net which he is more than capable of doing, it was a goalscoring opportunity. Leon Barnett got sent off for the exact same thing yesterday.

It has been proven that the ref/officials were bad in both games, even if you believe your goal should have stood we were still denied an absolute cast iron penalty and what would have been a certain red card. I actually thought at WHL more of the 50/50 decisions seemed to go your way, but at SB more of the 50/50s went your way so it evened itself out

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District Line said:
It wasn't, Ramires would simply of had to tap the ball into an empty net which he is more than capable of doing, it was a goalscoring opportunity. Leon Barnett got sent off for the exact same thing yesterday.

It has been proven that the ref/officials were bad in both games, even if you believe your goal should have stood we were still denied an absolute cast iron penalty and what would have been a certain red card. I actually thought at WHL more of the 50/50 decisions seemed to go your way, but at SB more of the 50/50s went your way so it evened itself out

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Great picture of Kaboul clearly playing the ball, DL.
Well done.

Ramires was going well wide.
Not a clear goalscoring opportunity.

Yes, the 3 goals that you scored all should've been denied, but it was a very even bit of officiating. <doh>
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Great picture of Kaboul clearly playing the ball, DL.
Well done.

Ramires was going well wide.
Not a clear goalscoring opportunity.

Yes, the 3 goals that you scored all should've been denied, but it was a very even bit of officiating. <doh>
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He didn't touch the ball and even if he did he took man before ball, that is a foul.

The 2 goals we scored at SB should have been chalked off, but there was nothing wrong with our goal at WHL, it was proven to have been controlled by his chest
 
District Line said:
He didn't touch the ball and even if he did he took man before ball, that is a foul.

The 2 goals we scored at SB should have been chalked off, but there was nothing wrong with our goal at WHL, it was proven to have been controlled by his chest
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The picture doesn't make it appear that way.
If you've got a clip, then it might be convincing.

Drogba clearly used his arm to control the ball.
Don't be ridiculous.

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PleaseNotPoll said:
The picture doesn't make it appear that way.
If you've got a clip, then it might be convincing.

Drogba clearly used his arm to control the ball.
Don't be ridiculous.

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We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

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Rick Saunders said:
I think it's pretty presumptuous for Spurs fans to be judging other teams until they play a real competitive match (and not a match against a rubbish scottish side whose owner has completely ruined them).

If you give us a good game on monday then I'd be inclined to agree with the consensus on this thread. If not then I will have to apply the same logic that Spurs fans on this thread are judging Arsenal and Liverpool with onto Spurs.
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4th place contenders? on last night's performance, you've got to be joking right?

Any Premier league team is difficult to break down when you're playing in 2nd gear, but as soon as we stepped it up a level Spurs were no match for us. A poor performance and yet more evidence of the lack of squad depth at Spurs. I would not be at all surprised if Arsenal's threadbare squad give us more of a contest at the weekend.

Using Spurs' fans own logic to asses Spurs' chances this season, they'll be lucky to finish mid-table.
 
Rick Saunders said:
4th place contenders? on last night's performance, you've got to be joking right?

Any Premier league team is difficult to break down when you're playing in 2nd gear, but as soon as we stepped it up a level Spurs were no match for us. A poor performance and yet more evidence of the lack of squad depth at Spurs. I would not be at all surprised if Arsenal's threadbare squad give us more of a contest at the weekend.

Using Spurs' fans own logic to asses Spurs' chances this season, they'll be lucky to finish mid-table.
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Typically biased "assessment". We were your equals for an hour, and if we had had any sort of decent strikeforce, we could have easily been in front; and you'd have had few complaints. What is not acceptable, as I have put on another thread, is the way we just threw the towel in after the first goal.

If I was a Utd fan, I wouldn't get too exicted by last night. As I said we were more than your equals fo two thirds of the game. Then, for some unexplicable reason, we just gave up.
 
Rick Saunders said:
4th place contenders? on last night's performance, you've got to be joking right?

Any Premier league team is difficult to break down when you're playing in 2nd gear, but as soon as we stepped it up a level Spurs were no match for us. A poor performance and yet more evidence of the lack of squad depth at Spurs. I would not be at all surprised if Arsenal's threadbare squad give us more of a contest at the weekend.

Using Spurs' fans own logic to asses Spurs' chances this season, they'll be lucky to finish mid-table.
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I pretty much agree with everything you said.

I don't even think 4th will be a contest this season as Liverpool will get it, it will be more a question of who gets into Europe and occupies the 5th and 6th spots, if Villa can lower their wage bill and get rid of a few of their older players and spend the cash, there is no reason why they can't be up there, if he managed to take Birmingham to 9th and win them a Carling Cup the next year given the poor attacking options they had there is no reason why he can't at least get Villa fighting for 6th-8th. and maybe win a cup <ok>
 
District Line said:
I pretty much agree with everything you said.

I don't even think 4th will be a contest this season as Liverpool will get it, it will be more a question of who gets into Europe and occupies the 5th and 6th spots, if Villa can lower their wage bill and get rid of a few of their older players and spend the cash, there is no reason why they can't be up there, if he managed to take Birmingham to 9th and win them a Carling Cup the next year given the poor attacking options they had there is no reason why he can't at least get Villa fighting for 6th-8th. and maybe win a cup <ok>
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More biased bollocks!!:emoticon-0149-no:
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
Don't be silly. Spurs were torn apart by Young, Nani and Rooney. As soon as the game opened up and Utd got a grip of midfield, it was a rout.

And why shouldn't Utd fans get excited? A team with an average age of 23- and missing Rio, Vidic, Giggs, Carrick, Fletcher, Valencia, Rafael, Fabio (and for the most part Giggs and Hernandez)- had 21 attempts on target and comfortably beat an opponent our manager rates as title contenders!
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Absolute, and total, biased bollocks!! I repeat, we more than matched you for two thirds of the game. You had a cutting edge that we lacked, and thus scored first - after which, we just, unforgiveably, capitulated. Given a proper strikeforce, we could easily have been in front, and you would have had no complaints.
The reason I said don't get too excited is because not many teams will just roll over after going 1-0 down, like we did last night. Had Sandro and/or Gallas and King been available, the result would have been far closer.
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
NSIS, games are played over 90 mins; it's quite usual for teams to come to OT and put up resistance for an hour before capitulating. As players tire and the game opens up, skilful and pacy players thrive and we saw that last night. Spurs were overwhelmed. It could have been a lot more than three goals. It was a combination of Utd's excellence and Spurs' shortcomings. I accept that other more defensively capable players may have made a difference, but few teams can put out their best XI every week; it's a squad game and you have to cope. Utd had a number of similarly important defensive players missing.
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Pacy players blatantly don't thrive... Walker, Lennon and Bale?
 
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