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Thanks for the correction Happy, I was only guessing as I don't know any of the forces rank symbols.
Yeah no worries, I get confused with Army ones above Captain lol.

Saw loads of cadets in Spalding today, Army, RAF and Navy ones. Alongisde the old folks with medals, it's really heart warming to see.
 
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Agree Denis, yes I know that I was there yesterday but I have never done 2 days services and todays was when all officialdom attended, yesterday seemed like a private ceremony in comparison. A larger congregation today and although I do not know the armed forces rank structure I think I can safely say that all the forces top brass were in attendance today. Of course the political elite were on show in their finery and todays service was much more like you see on the TV, of which is where I usually saw the occasion. It was a fine morning more or less until the service started then the cloud covered the bright sun and the wind got up, it was cold, in fact towards the end it started raining. But I needed the toilet so dashed into Hammonds and many people were watching the service from the relative warmth and comfort of Hammond's staircases, crafty. After about an hour in total I was feeling the cold myself so decided to let the rest of the occasion take its course, Ferensway was indeed blocked off and as Denis says, it was nice, nicer than the previous day. So many never returned from those conflicts but still quite a few turn out despite their advancing ages, but on a sorry note I also visited the railway lines and platforms where the many Jews set off for their new lives in a new country, I found it sad that there is not even a plaque to commemorate the event, both from our own officials or from the Jewish community. There again maybe they were not allowed by the rail authorities.
 
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We attended the ceremony in the village. It was very well attended; in excess of 400, so excellent. Pipes and Drums of 102 BN REME, and all of the veterans, cadets, Beavers, Cubs, Scouts, etc. made for an excellent morning.
We retired to one of the pubs to thaw out, as it was the coldest day so far this year. My Grandson - who marched as a Cub - was scoffing his hot broth, which was provided to one and all free of charge, when he looked at us all and said he thought the war should have ended in the summer - everyone laughed and agreed wholeheartedly. He was quite chuffed with his nine year old self.
 
Agree Denis, yes I know that I was there yesterday but I have never done 2 days services and todays was when all officialdom attended, yesterday seemed like a private ceremony in comparison. A larger congregation today and although I do not know the armed forces rank structure I think I can safely say that all the forces top brass were in attendance today. Of course the political elite were on show in their finery and todays service was much more like you see on the TV, of which is where I usually saw the occasion. It was a fine morning more or less until the service started then the cloud covered the bright sun and the wind got up, it was cold, in fact towards the end it started raining. But I needed the toilet so dashed into Hammonds and many people were watching the service from the relative warmth and comfort of Hammond's staircases, crafty. After about an hour in total I was feeling the cold myself so decided to let the rest of the occasion take its course, Ferensway was indeed blocked off and as Denis says, it was nice, nicer than the previous day. So many never returned from those conflicts but still quite a few turn out despite their advancing ages, but on a sorry note I also visited the railway lines and platforms where the many Jews set off for their new lives in a new country, I found it sad that there is not even a plaque to commemorate the event, both from our own officials or from the Jewish community. There again maybe they were not allowed by the rail authorities.
I know that there was a specific Jewish Service too this afternoon as a few non Jewish people in public/civic roles I know were also going to that, but I agree it is something that deserves more attention on the station itself
 
I had cause to go into town yet again today so I took time to look at the wreaths laid yesterday and one thing stood out, no wreath from Hull City AFC, Hull RLFC or Hull Kingston Rovers RLFC in fact there wasn't one wreath from any sporting organisation in Hull or the East Riding unless I missed it, which I doubt, I was most surprised to say the least.
 
I had cause to go into town yet again today so I took time to look at the wreaths laid yesterday and one thing stood out, no wreath from Hull City AFC, Hull RLFC or Hull Kingston Rovers RLFC in fact there wasn't one wreath from any sporting organisation in Hull or the East Riding unless I missed it, which I doubt, I was most surprised to say the least.

Do football clubs normally lay wreaths, I thought it was just local dignitaries and the military/ex-military?
 
Do football clubs normally lay wreaths, I thought it was just local dignitaries and the military/ex-military?

I would have thought any organisation could seeing as there were wreaths from schools (in booklet form), cubs, brownies, guides and scout associations.
 
I would have thought any organisation could seeing as there were wreaths from schools (in booklet form), cubs, brownies, guides and scout associations.

I just checked and it's not normal for a sporting organisation to lay a wreath, etiquette suggests they should be laid by the following:
  1. Civic VIP
  2. Representatives of regular forces
  3. Representatives of territorial and reserve forces
  4. Representatives of ex-Service associations, including RBL & RBLWS
  5. Representatives of uniformed public services (police, fire brigade, ambulance services)
  6. Representatives of uniformed voluntary services (St John, Red Cross etc)
  7. Representatives of cadet forces
  8. Representatives of youth organisations
  9. Members of the public.
 
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I just checked and it's not normal for a sporting organisation to lay a wreath, etiquette suggests they should be laid by the following:
  1. Civic VIP
  2. Representatives of regular forces
  3. Representatives of territorial and reserve forces
  4. Representatives of ex-Service associations, including RBL & RBLWS
  5. Representatives of uniformed public services (police, fire brigade, ambulance services)
  6. Representatives of uniformed voluntary services (St John, Red Cross etc)
  7. Representatives of cadet forces
  8. Representatives of youth organisations
  9. Members of the public.

All rather odd seeing as there seem to be occasions at football requiring observance of a minutes silence and uproar not so long back as shirts to be used for an England international, and even black armbands adorned with poppies were banned by the rulling footballing authorities, who, after much protesting, relented.
 
I had cause to go into town yet again today so I took time to look at the wreaths laid yesterday and one thing stood out, no wreath from Hull City AFC, Hull RLFC or Hull Kingston Rovers RLFC in fact there wasn't one wreath from any sporting organisation in Hull or the East Riding unless I missed it, which I doubt, I was most surprised to say the least.
I don’t think they ever have, as OLM says it’s not listed as an option
Johnny Whiteley was there though as a freeman of the city (I think)
 
But I needed the toilet so dashed into Hammonds and many people were watching the service from the relative warmth and comfort of Hammond's staircases, crafty
We too saw these crafty staircase dwellers in Hammonds as we shivered in the sleet.
Next year them stairs are getting owned.
 
I just checked and it's not normal for a sporting organisation to lay a wreath, etiquette suggests they should be laid by the following:
  1. Civic VIP
  2. Representatives of regular forces
  3. Representatives of territorial and reserve forces
  4. Representatives of ex-Service associations, including RBL & RBLWS
  5. Representatives of uniformed public services (police, fire brigade, ambulance services)
  6. Representatives of uniformed voluntary services (St John, Red Cross etc)
  7. Representatives of cadet forces
  8. Representatives of youth organisations
  9. Members of the public.

Local football club
Asda
Sainsbury's

Basically, put your organisation forward to the organiser and you might be surprised at being given a spot and getting announced in the ceremony; Joe Public can lay, but usually after the ceremony and not announced. Alot will depend on the scale of the event.