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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
rangercol said:
There are striking similarities.
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I couldn't comment. There are also certain types you closely resemble, however I couldn't possibly say without falling foul of board etiquette.

However, once again - to be clear, because I really don't know where you're going - I've only ever posted as me.
 
West London Willy said:
I couldn't comment. There are also certain types you closely resemble, however I couldn't possibly say without falling foul of board etiquette.

However, once again - to be clear, because I really don't know where you're going - I've only ever posted as me.
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WTF?
Why so confrontational? You must be one of the most confrontational posters on here.

All that to me and yet, not more than a word or two to Ossie who actually asked the question?

Very interesting.
 
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rangercol said:
WTF?
Why so confrontational? You must be one of the most confrontational posters on here.

All that to me and yet, not more than a word or two to Ossie who actually asked the question?

Very interesting.
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You're very paranoid, you know. I might have been suggesting many possible forum members or types you bring to mind, but no, you assume I'm being confrontational.

You might remember that not everything people post is about or against you, and that, on the subject of Brexit, youve hardly been the most polite and easy going of posters when people disagree with your rather fixed views.

A little patience and a little less accusations might be nice to see...
 
West London Willy said:
You're very paranoid, you know. I might have been suggesting many possible forum members or types you bring to mind, but no, you assume I'm being confrontational.

You might remember that not everything people post is about or against you, and that, on the subject of Brexit, youve hardly been the most polite and easy going of posters when people disagree with your rather fixed views.

A little patience and a little less accusations might be nice to see...
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It's very hard to be patient with someone as intransigent and always in the right like you, but thanks for the advice.............I'll try my best....promise.
 
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Bank of England raise interest rates for the first time in 10 years, yet the £ drops over a point against the $ and €. today. I realise this was pre - warned, a tiny raise, and only further small raises are forecast by the B of E. Still isnt it an unusual reaction by the markets?
 
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West London Willy said:
He posts general crap to get a reaction. Your crap has become more targeted. I can ignore his ramblings because its obvious hes just posting for effect. I've met him and know this. You i dont know, and the tone of your posts is different. Hence a different response when warranted.
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Absolutely true I visit here to do nothing else. I love reading our digital family’s opinions. The forum is entertainment nothing more and if it gets serious at time then it’s a problem. All social media contributes in a shade to sexual assaults imo
This digital revolution is taking its toll on world culture and morality or what we thought was morality
 
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Lawrence Jacoby said:
Absolutely true I visit here to do nothing else. I love reading our digital family’s opinions. The forum is entertainment nothing more and if it gets serious at time then it’s a problem. All social media contributes in a shade to sexual assaults imo
This digital revolution is taking its toll on world culture and morality or what we thought was morality
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Bit serious there, Paul. :)
 
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danishqp said:
Anyway, if it is OK let's bring this back to discussing politics - I have had a few meetings cancelled, I'm rather cheesed off with work, they promised authentis fish and chips today in the canteen and let's just say it had nothing on Seashell in Lisson Grove, or my own favourite Langan's.
So, on to the subject at hand - The complete madness that is Spain (and always has been).

As previously alluded to, my meal times in Spain were a wondrous thing, once the agua ardiente came out. You see, on one side was a grandfather from La Coruna Galicia who was an ardent Franco supporter having served as a Staff Sargent for him during the Civil War. Accompanying him would be a couple of sons in law who's on fathers had died during the conflict, also on Franco's side.
On the other side would be a son in law that my grandfather adored but who's own father was a prime leader of the Spanish Communist party. This son in law Mario Gallego Rey, was an intellect with a great friendship to his father's protege Santiago Carillo (for many years the Head of the Spanish Communist party).
If you want to bore yourselves, go and read Euroncommunism and State for some insight to their thinking.
On his side were an array of lefties who just wanted a decent quiet life - amongst them were my own father who had held a high ranking position under Franco for many years, simply because Franco was bereft with guilt at having killed his uncle. The uncle was canonised 3 years ago as Saint Braulio Carlos, it helps me in life as I am able to equalise the Karma at will.

Iberia was, is and always has and will be a ragamuffin conjunction of regions that consider themselves their own countries. They can actually claim this on several grounds:

Language - Circa 30% of Castillian speaking people will understand a Gallego speaking Gallego and have a decent jist of what they are saying
For Catalan that figure will reduce to around the 20% mark. Remember, that the ones that will understand are those from the regions closest.
For Basque, well I as a Castellano and Gallego speaking person cannot even begin to understand how thei own mothers can understand them when they are speaking Basque!! The difference is that stark, it is simply a completely different language.

Landscape and temperatures - OK, Galicia = Ireland
Andalucia = North Africa (the dry parts) - think the Spaghetti western of A fistful of Dollars, A few Dollar more - all shot in Almeria!
Castilla la Vieja/Extremadura - flat as a pancake, the rest equates to being the second most mountainous country in Europe.
It's generally the whole shabang, food, history of different rulers in different regions, Vikings in Galica, the Moors in Andalucia - the absolute works!!

I'm not going to bore you any further with facts that you can easily find on Wikipedia - what you won't find on Wikipedia is the inate hatred that the peoples of different regions have for each other. This was of course accentuated by Franco's rule - in its hatred towards everything Madrid - but it was always there. My grandparents spoke of times where Spanish emigrated to all over simply to get away from that same hatred, so intense was it - well before Franco.

Franco's era is well documented and his death brought a general sense of relief to the majority of Spain. For a genuine period of about 5 years it appeared that many of the old prejudices were disappearing. This was manily due to everyone starting to have sex, be able to read about sex and able to go and watch sex in a cinema!! I'm only half joking about the sex part, but the ability to have freedom of speech and generally behave without fear was liberating to all.

I was myself what was to become known as the "Golden Generation" - we are in the 45 - 60 age group, we were the ones that could now have a full education (i.e University), whereas before it was the rarest of things - parents gave everything for their children to have the opportunity they never had. Many of us were not worth a carrot but our parents kept on paying, whatever their positions in life, it literally meant everything to them. This group were OK because when they finished their education there were abundent opportunities for even the most useless of scholars (my group). Spain at that time was the growth area for so many companies, it was at Third World stage with First World attitudes and possibilities. No one had a scintilla of a problem to invest in Spain.

With the new new found wealth, growth and education came the yearning for self autonomy - we were never to go back to to the dark days. When we talk about self autonomy in Spain it is even on another level than any other country can come close to. The problems that this causes had already been bubbling but as per usual it took money to bring it to the boil. The financial crisis hit home at what a house of cards Spain's economy had become, suddenly even the most basic of services and needs were no longer available, these times are always a great breeding ground for extremist views. This drive from Cataluna has come from this same Golden Generation that lives in a theorist world rather than a practical world. Let me tell you something, you do not want to enter an enter into an argument with even an averagely educated Spaniard, they are all like Stan in intellect and vocabulary minus the sarcasm and humanity - you simply cannot win an argument or even move their position slightly.

The majority of Catalanes are like the ones round my family dinner table, just wanting to live a peaceful life, this bullshit of entrenched postions is one borne from ideologies that the msot vociferous and articulated are able to accentuate due to the majority (and quite rightly being apathetic towards).

Where "normal" people in Spain all agree, is that Madrid has played this hand like a bunch of ****s. Not one of them has had a decent negotiation course - maybe I'll set one up for them where UK Brexit negotiators could attend!!

In conclusion, Spain has always hated each other, has always loved a good argument and a good excuse to make everything a drama. I personally hate and love Spain in equal measure, love it for the family, the weather, the culture, the paisaje - really dislike the majority of ****s in it.

So immagine that amount of feeling from someone who now only visits twice a year, think of how you feel if you live in that pot?

Cologne - please look just a tad further than your nose and what you read from foreign press - Spain is not Fascist. It's a corrupt country full of over educated gardners and waiters, looking for an excuse to rumble, over uses olive oil and garlic in its food, but its not Fascist.

This could well be be be way too long a drivel and for that I apologise, I lost my drift, too many ****s came to my office to ask if I like the fish and chips!!!!
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I apologize if my remarks caused offence, but if you read again I did not describe modern Spain as Fascist. What I did do was to state that it had been the most successfull of all Fascist states - bearing in mind that the leader of it died peacefully in his bed after having ruled for 40 years, despite the executions and disappearances of over half a million people. Also, the word Fascist can only really describe the original - ie. the rule of Mussolini. However, the question still remains - do democracies shoot rubber bullets at people whose only 'crime' was in wanting to vote ? Do they have political trials and accuse non violent people of rebellion with the threat of up to 30 years in prison ? I think not.
 
rangercol said:
Saw a peregrine falcon this morning. Life doesn't get much better than that!
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I’ve been reading about a lot of raptors being killed and no one being prosecuted for it. Presumably it’s about protecting grouse or other force bred birds, which no one eats after they have been shot.
 
sb_73 said:
I’ve been reading about a lot of raptors being killed and no one being prosecuted for it. Presumably it’s about protecting grouse or other force bred birds, which no one eats after they have been shot.
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Yep. Game keepers shoot and poison many birds of prey. A lot of the time they end up killing raptors that won't endanger the birds they have reared to be shot.
 
When I travelled back to U.K. yesterday got caught in a herd of goats in the gorge that runs to my home ... While the dogs did their work she told me that she has to watch out constantly as the griffin vultures target her kids

Now that is bird
 
colognehornet said:
I apologize if my remarks caused offence, but if you read again I did not describe modern Spain as Fascist. What I did do was to state that it had been the most successfull of all Fascist states - bearing in mind that the leader of it died peacefully in his bed after having ruled for 40 years, despite the executions and disappearances of over half a million people. Also, the word Fascist can only really describe the original - ie. the rule of Mussolini. However, the question still remains - do democracies shoot rubber bullets at people whose only 'crime' was in wanting to vote ? Do they have political trials and accuse non violent people of rebellion with the threat of up to 30 years in prison ? I think not.
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Cologne, to be honest mate, the whole thing is a piss poor mismanagement by the lot of them.
Rest assured, today's **** up of encarcerating these dicks, will come back to haunt Rajoy.
No one is going to serve time in the 21st Century in Spain for at worst a political "crime".
Me thinks...............
No offense taken by the way.
 
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The richest 1% now pay 28% of all taxes.
The poorest 50% pay just 10%.
the mugs in the middle pay the rest
 
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