Daily Racing Thread Friday 22nd. September 2017

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stick said:
It varies each year Barney but somewhere in the high eighties is usually good enough
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Thanks. Only asked because I find Coeur De Lion’s entry in the ‘Cesarewitch Trial’ tomorrow intriguing. Gets in on the minimum weight (8 stone) plus the highly capable Doyle filly takes off a further 3 lbs.

Is currently though only on 79. 20/1 for the big one in October.

The yard have a tremendous recent record in such a big field handicap as the ‘Ces’ having won it in ’15 and had the runner-up last term.
 
Sir Barney Chuckles said:
Thanks. Only asked because I find Coeur De Lion’s entry in the ‘Cesarewitch Trial’ tomorrow intriguing. Gets in on the minimum weight (8 stone) plus the highly capable Doyle filly takes off a further 3 lbs.

Is currently though only on 79. 20/1 for the big one in October.

The yard have a tremendous recent record in such a big field handicap as the ‘Ces’ having won it in ’15 and had the runner-up last term.
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There are currently 82 entered for the Cesarewitch and Coeur De Lion would be on 7st 7lb off a rating of 79. Since the minimum weight these days is 8st, it would be 7lb wrong in the handicap. Victory in the Trial race would incur a penalty that would improve its chances of getting in and bring it nearer to 8st.

There are only nine horses in the Cesarewitch with a lower rating than 79 so Coeur De Lion is theoretically guaranteed a place ahead of them.

The current topweight is Willie Mullins’ Renneti, rated 110, followed by Winning Story (108), Oriental Fox (105) and Arch Villain (104). If those dropped out, the weights would rise; however, if you back Coeur De Lion ante post you may get your money back thanks to it getting balloted out as I think the maximum field is something like 34.
 
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Big question right now has to be why are Stan James so big re Barney From Tyanee?!? Everywhere else you can get 8’s, 9’s,10s or in one place 11’s but they go 14/1, I say 14/1! What do they know?!?

Is quite a ponderable, methinks.
 
Going to start the weekend with a couple of favourites

Stooshie 5:00 Downpatrick 11/10
Mobbhij 5:45 Newcastle 2/1

2 singles and a double
 
Chaninbar said:
Have a great day Red. Gamain @7s in the 3.40 would be my pick getting nearly a stone off the jolly and with form on easy ground. I also think Nicholls will win the opener, which is hardly earth shattering news, but with the second fav. Has to give away weight but has experience over the larger obstacles which the odds on fav doesn't and again appreciates ease in the ground. Enjoy.
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Great call
 
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Eve Johnson Houghton was two necks off a huge treble at Newbury today. Always liked her as a trainer but seems to have better quality horses this year: deservedly so.
 
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