Redknapp Considers Modric Move

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Cech
Ivan Luiz Alex Cole
Essien Ramieres Josh
Sturridge Torres Malouda

Mikel, Lukaku, Benayoun, Bosingwa, Kalou etc as well.

Even without the 4 players you mention and no new signings, that team could still win the league. I think the difference is still a fair bit. I cant see us having a run as bad as we did nov-jan last season.

But

Gomes
Walker Dawson King Assou-Ekottou
Sandro Huddlestone Modric
Bale Van der Vaart Adebayor

Corluka, Gallas, Kaboul, Kranjcar, Lennon etc as well

is really quite close in terms of quality
 
But

Gomes
Walker Dawson King Assou-Ekottou
Sandro Huddlestone Modric
Bale Van der Vaart Adebayor

Corluka, Gallas, Kaboul, Kranjcar, Lennon etc as well

is really quite close in terms of quality

No but you haven't got Ade yet for a start and whilst that is a good team on papers, I would seriously only take Modric and Bale into our starting 11 (especially given King's injury record). Whilst the 2 sides would be close in a one off match, over the course of the season i'd be suprised if you were near us.

Also I think VDV is a fine player but wouldn't fit into our system.
 
Cech
Ivan Luiz Alex Cole
Essien Ramieres Josh
Sturridge Torres Malouda

Mikel, Lukaku, Benayoun, Bosingwa, Kalou etc as well.

Even without the 4 players you mention and no new signings, that team could still win the league. I think the difference is still a fair bit. I cant see us having a run as bad as we did nov-jan last season.
Cech - Probably the best keeper in the Prem.
Ivan - nothing special
Luiz - Jury still out, goes missing at crucial times
Alex - again, not a bad player, but, nothing exceptional
Cole - currently the best LB in the Prem, maybe the world
Essien - very good player - if you can keep him fit for more than 5 minutes!
Ramieres - seems to be improving, but still a bit of hot-head
Josh?
Sturridge - Good striker. Wouldn't mind having him at Spurs
Torres - What's to say. I used to really rate him. But, at the moment, he's the world's most expensive statue
Malouda - Good Player on his day
However, I still think at least 4-5 of our first x1 would get into your team. The difference will be in what Abramovich is prepared to spend to patch up your ageing squad.
 
Probably a bit harsh here and there NSIS, but I'd suggest that there's not £100m+ worth of yearly wages difference there.
Chelsea are still a step ahead of us, in my opinion, but the spending difference between them and us is bigger than that of us and Hearts.
Not great value, for me.
 
Cech
Ivan Luiz Alex Cole
Essien Ramieres Josh
Sturridge Torres Malouda

Mikel, Lukaku, Benayoun, Bosingwa, Kalou etc as well.

Even without the 4 players you mention and no new signings, that team could still win the league. I think the difference is still a fair bit. I cant see us having a run as bad as we did nov-jan last season.

Entirely disagree. I don't rate half of that team, above. Essien is always injured. Torres is currently the world's most expensive statue. Out of that team I would only take a fit Essien, Cole, Sturridge and Torres - if he ever rediscovers where the goal is.
 
Cech - Probably the best keeper in the Prem.
Ivan - nothing special
Luiz - Jury still out, goes missing at crucial times
Alex - again, not a bad player, but, nothing exceptional
Cole - currently the best LB in the Prem, maybe the world
Essien - very good player - if you can keep him fit for more than 5 minutes!
Ramieres - seems to be improving, but still a bit of hot-head
Josh?
Sturridge - Good striker. Wouldn't mind having him at Spurs
Torres - What's to say. I used to really rate him. But, at the moment, he's the world's most expensive statue
Malouda - Good Player on his day
However, I still think at least 4-5 of our first x1 would get into your team. The difference will be in what Abramovich is prepared to spend to patch up your ageing squad.

If 5 players could get into our starting 11 that would surely mean we are about equal yet our league positions last season (and beyond) would suggest otherwise. And remember this team doesn't feature 4 of our best players who we still have 2-3 years to replace if need be.
Modric would replace one of our midfielders and Bale would get in as a wide player. Who else though? Our defence was best in the league last year so I certainly wouldn't change any of them 5 (including cech).
 
Chelsea have more "go to" players than Spurs- the type who make a telling contibution in games when it matters- Terry, Lampard, Drogba. But they're all getting on and it's not clear who is in line to replace them. The players recruited at great expense have yet to show they are able to step up- Torres especially.

I'm not sure Chelsea are a big threat for the title this season. I hope I don't live to regret saying that....

I wouldn't entirely disagree and I still think we need one of two signings of the creative type to really push on. However I think time will show that Luiz, Ramieres, Lukaku etc were very good signings. Torres maybe not because of the fee but if he plays like he did on Sunday for the rest of the season we will be a threat to anyone.

Sometimes it takes the old guard to move on for other players to shine. Look how Rooney flourished when Ronaldo left, Fabregas and RVP when some of the invincibles left etc. Whilst Lampard and Drogba are in the team it will always be difficult for others to really shine through but they will at some point.
 
Chelsea look pretty strong to me.

They had problems with some of their youth players last season, which resulted in a number of them refusing new contracts, as they felt they deserved first team money.
That lead to them being sent out on loan, which cost the team in the first half of the season, as they weren't really prepared for it.

They still need at least one more creative midfielder and possibly a winger, though Kakuta or Benayoun may see to that position.
Cech's back-up is a little suspect, too.
Other than that, they don't really have any holes in their squad.

They'll be up there at the end, unless Villas-Boas can't handle the job.
 
Chelsea look pretty strong to me.

They had problems with some of their youth players last season, which resulted in a number of them refusing new contracts, as they felt they deserved first team money.
That lead to them being sent out on loan, which cost the team in the first half of the season, as they weren't really prepared for it.

They still need at least one more creative midfielder and possibly a winger, though Kakuta or Benayoun may see to that position.
Cech's back-up is a little suspect, too.
Other than that, they don't really have any holes in their squad.

They'll be up there at the end, unless Villas-Boas can't handle the job.

Cech's back up is indeed a worry. Shame Carlo left to be back up at your place. Has he retired now?
 
Nope.
Cudicini is now our third choice keeper, apparently.
Did well when he was given a run at the end of the season, but had a couple of dodgy performances in the pre-season games.
 
If 5 players could get into our starting 11 that would surely mean we are about equal yet our league positions last season (and beyond) would suggest otherwise. And remember this team doesn't feature 4 of our best players who we still have 2-3 years to replace if need be.
Modric would replace one of our midfielders and Bale would get in as a wide player. Who else though? Our defence was best in the league last year so I certainly wouldn't change any of them 5 (including cech).

Well, for starters, Sandro would almost certainly replace Essien, who is never fit. I would give Walker the nod at RB. Adebayor (assuming we get him) would get the nod over Sturridge. If you say VDV doesn't fit your system - ok. I could also make a case for Lennon, but that'a close call.
 
Sandro?!?1 He'd be about 4th choice holding midfielder for us let alone ahead of Essien. Walker would get nowhere near the RB slot with Ivan and Bosingwa in our squad. These are established and experienced international players. Walker has a long way to go yet.

Sturridge will play wide for us, no way Ade could play that role and he wouldn't get in our side as the lone striker ahead of Drogba, Torres or Anelka.

I can still only really see a case for Modric and Bale and even Bale would be subject to him being able to play in a forward 3 as he wouldn't oust our LB.

I guess it's all opinions though.
 
Sandro?!?1 He'd be about 4th choice holding midfielder for us let alone ahead of Essien. Walker would get nowhere near the RB slot with Ivan and Bosingwa in our squad. These are established and experienced international players. Walker has a long way to go yet.

Sturridge will play wide for us, no way Ade could play that role and he wouldn't get in our side as the lone striker ahead of Drogba, Torres or Anelka.

I can still only really see a case for Modric and Bale and even Bale would be subject to him being able to play in a forward 3 as he wouldn't oust our LB.

I guess it's all opinions though.

Of course it's all opinions. In my view Sandro has turned into one of the very best holding midfielders around. I should also point out that Walker is on the verge of becoming England's regular RB. I would play him ahead of either of your two. You don't always play a lone striker, you started with two in many games last season. In which case, I maintain Ade would get the nod to partner either Torres or Drogba.
 
How about you agree to disagree.

Picking players from a rival side to strengthen your own side invariable degrades into a "my dad's bigger than your dad" squabble.

Rather than debate which Spurs players you would add to a Chelsea side why not do the same exercise with 2 other rival teams - how about Sunderland and Newcastle.

Because personally, I don't care about either of them. Neither do I consider them to be serious rivals to Spurs. Chelsea, on the other hand......
 
Of course it's all opinions. In my view Sandro has turned into one of the very best holding midfielders around. I should also point out that Walker is on the verge of becoming England's regular RB. I would play him ahead of either of your two. You don't always play a lone striker, you started with two in many games last season. In which case, I maintain Ade would get the nod to partner either Torres or Drogba.

Sandro and Walker are good players with bags of potential. But they have yet to perform consistently at the level of the players you are comparing them with. Sandro for instance can't get into the Brazil squad despite playing in Brazil before signing for you. Rameires on the other hand is a regular for Brazil. Has Walker even been capped for the senior side yet??

If we played 2 up top I still wouldn't have Ade but I'd be tempted with either Anelka or VDV playing with Drogba or Torres.
 
He's two years younger, almost to the day and he plays a different role altogether.
Ramires is definitely not a holding player.
 
He's two years younger, almost to the day and he plays a different role altogether.
Ramires is definitely not a holding player.

Exactly. Sandro's rival in that place would be Lucas. Walker may not have a full cap, yet. But, he very soon will have - with, I suspect, many more to follow.