Rose's Interview
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So if someone doing the same job as you somewhere else in another country was doing it competently and happily for half your salary I'm assuming you'd swiftly go and tell your boss to slash your wages?
How's you getting us banned going for us being the same person? I've waited a long time now...
There is certainly an argument, mentioned earlier, that it is not possible to pay a player enough to stop them going. This is because there are certain clubs that are not bound by normal financial practices so can always pay them more. We could up wages and risk financial meltdown, whilst others can up wages and simply arrange themselves another sponsorship deal with their pet airline to pay for it. We should be getting credit for being financially responsible but all you hear from the pundits is that we should be paying more to compete! Unfortunately you cannot compete with certain teams, financially at least, because their income is not dependent on real revenue. So yes we could perhaps play more, but it is a dangerous way to go, and as has been said then we'd have to up the wages in the whole squad and before you know it all the additional revenue from the new stadium is gone.
This.
Unfortunately, the clubs with the most money also feel the need to stockpile the best young players, who are allowed to rot on the vine or loaned out to clubs in lesser circumstances that detrimentally affects their development.
Left to its own devices, professional football will destroy itself. We are in 'The South Sea Bubble'. At some point the professional game will have to contract and clubs over extending themselves to 'keep up' will go to the wall. Unfortunately, the 'Oil Money' clubs will survive the effect that they have caused.
The Americans have introduced wage caps because the free market induces madness. What will we choose? If left to the FA, we'll be lucky to have enough clubs to run the last four rounds of the FA Cup.
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Personally, I don't think ANY player ANYWHERE should be getting more than £10,000 a week for basically doing something we would all quite happily turn up twice a week and do for nothing. The world has gone truly mad. A wage cap should be introduced in order to level the playing field. FFP will not work because bigger clubs can generate huge revenues compared to smaller clubs.
The last 2 seasons must have come as a bit of shock to Levy, being in the title race almost until the end. He probably wasn't expecting Pochettino to be so good so quickly or even at all. Let's face it, his track record with managers hasn't been exactly stellar.But what it has meant is that expectations have now been raised such that fans, who a few years ago would have been happy with a top 4 place, are demanding that we remain as competitive as we've been for the last 2 seasons. Equally, the players of a team that had the best GF and GA record last season look at inferior players elsewhere getting paid more than themselves and are naturally miffed. I would be too if i found out that the lazy office moron got paid more than me.
The recent upturn in the club's fortunes has probably come 5 years too early. Had we already been in our new stadium with a chunk paid off we could actually be competitive and pay these idiotic objects of our affection what they think they deserve. As it is, I expect that the exodus has truly started and we'll see more leaving next summer.
Well said.
The wilful ignorance by people here of the part of the interview where
Rose said he would be happy to play at any club for the same/worse wages
as Spurs as long as at the end he had something to "show for it" , is shocking.
To compare himself to Luke Shaw and say he is worth more than Shaw is actually true. He is worth more than Shaw-BUT Shaw is not worth what he is getting. I've read here that he is on 75k but on the radio they say 120k. Shaw is not worth that. As above, certain teams skew the market. They pay 50million for a back up and pay him over 100k to sit on the bench.
Probably because he said one once and the other repeatedly.
Worth, worth, worth, worth, worth, worth, worth, oh yeah and trophies.
Does anyone think that he'd have stayed at Birmingham or Wigan on less wages? I don't.
Players want to win things, but it's secondary to wages.
This ^
I wouldn't necessarily say 5 years early, but we are certainly way ahead of schedule. In an ideal world, and I don't mean to be funny when I say this, but in a way we would've been better served had Poch's first 5 seasons gone:
5/6th
4th - no title challenge
3rd - small title challenge
This season: 3rd/4th due to Wembley
Next season: 2nd/3rd with sustained title challenge
2019/20: Harry Kane lifts the title at the new WHL having scored 67 goals in all competitions.
Our players exceeding expectation combined with multiple rivals imploding spectacularly has combined to propel us 2 seasons ahead of schedule. The fact that we are looked at as serious title contenders yet face a season in an unfamiliar environment puts us at a massive disadvantage. The players can clearly sense that they are each individually inches away from silverware. A poor season at Wembley (likely) and the older members of the team (Rose and Toby amongst others) may well abandon ship, shiny new stadium or not.
The pressure on Poch this season will be greater than anything he has faced in his career. I sound like a broken record but top 4 and a trophy is now the absolute minimum. And if that means looking in the mirror ans realising that we badly lack the depth to cope with the CL, so be it. Throw the towel in on it or we'll just be the new Arsenal.
Rose aside. Lot's of players say this, so let's talk generally.
If it was important for a player to move to a club where they thought they had more chance of winning a trophy then they would be happy to move and even take a cut in salary-why does that never happen? The trophy thing is a smokescreen-end off.
Why do players move from one PL team to another? Why would Arnautovitz move from Stoke to West Ham? Neither have huge chances of winning a trophy. London excuse? Another smokescreen. He increased his salary.The only players who take a cut in salary to move are those at the end of their career who move down divisions.
Back to Rose-he wants more money. (have I mentioned GREED)
Tis one of the great lies of pro football (hence my sarky comment) .
If all these players actually did what I stated, then I would have
immense respect for them. But they don't.
They want to go clubs where ostensibly they have a better chance
of having something to "show for it" . But if that does not go to plan
then at least they have earned a lorry-load more money than
if they had stayed put.
Home games at Wembley.
Walker gone. Rose being an ingrate prat.
The haters trying to undermine the Pochettino project.
I feel 150% Audere est facere right now.
Hope the boys do too.
Walker gone. Rose being an ingrate prat.
The haters trying to undermine the Pochettino project.
I feel 150% Audere est facere right now.
Hope the boys do too.
Hence I brought up Kimmich, who the last time I checked didn't go running to Bild to say he deserves more than €10,000 a week in spite of being a full international playing for one of Europe's elite clubs who already has a pretty good medal collection at the age of 22.
Also, as I said last season when the hacks were repeating the mantra "But Leicester pay one-season wonder Jamie Vardy £100k a week"...so what? Why should one club base their pay structure on anothers? Why would any club be that short-sighted? And, more importantly, where does it stop? Are they saying that, if Colchester want to keep their best players, they should pay them in line with what Stoke pay theirs?
Somehow something so easy to understand keeps going over the head of one poster whose sole "point" in this thread is that he is capable of using the correct account...but only after having it pointed out to them they were using the wrong one.
Google translate (PL player/agent to English) :
Having realised I am not going to get my desired move
away from Spurs this month, I realise now that I am
going to face an immense supporter sh*t storm the moment
I reappear in a home senior game from then to God knows
when.
Having realised I am not going to get my desired move
away from Spurs this month, I realise now that I am
going to face an immense supporter sh*t storm the moment
I reappear in a home senior game from then to God knows
when.
did someone just remind him of how long he has got to run on his contract?
idiot
Why do I get the feeling that he was told that, if he didn't distance himself from his comments in Murdoch's Hate Comic, he wouldn't be getting his "meagre" wages of £65,000 for the next week or two?
He's already been fined two weeks wages and is protesting it, according to the media.
I'm guessing that his hero's welcome wasn't exactly as reported.
The apology means nothing unless he stays this season. If we now sell him, he might as well have said nothing. Actions not words.
At Anfield Klopp and FSG say Countinho's not for sale..........but he's not available this weekend or for next week's CL qualifier because he's got a back ache.............
Hmmmm?
At Anfield Klopp and FSG say Countinho's not for sale..........but he's not available this weekend or for next week's CL qualifier because he's got a back ache.............
Hmmmm?