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  1. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Yes they would need to exist
     
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  2. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    So a no

    Evolution. Show me now
     
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    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I don't recall saying that
     
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    Only if they were to create it. There are scientific and mathematical theories that arguably show how it is possible without them.

    An age old dilemma, I'm sure you've met before. Presumably you believe your god to be omnipotent and omnibenevolent?

    So:
    1. If God is unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful.
    2. If God is not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good.
    3. If God is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist?
     
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    You didn't. I'm just clarifying. So do you believe that we came from clay?
     
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  6. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    So what do we know

    PNP didn't watch the vid posted and jumped to conclusions. Guy in vid said nothing wrong

    Evolution has incomplete fossil records, no one has seen it happen so its conclusions are leaps of faith

    God is great
     
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  7. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Do you know how fossils are formed? It doesn't seem that you do.
    Why would claims by "evolutionists" require the entire fossil record?
    They don't claim to have it or need it to demonstrate that the theory is accurate.

    Anything without evidence can be dismissed until sufficient evidence is presented.
    There's more than sufficient evidence of evolution. Quite simple, really.

    You asked for a dinochicken and I provided one. I didn't say that it was proof of anything.
    An artist or carpenter are alterers, yes. They change something into something else. They don't make things out of nothing.
    Claiming that a scientist is a god-comparable creator is putting a mechanic on the same level.

    I don't claim that god has any traits.
    I respond to the claims of others and many of them do say that it's supernatural and non-physical.
    You may have some other opinion, but that doesn't make me ignorant.
     
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    Who says god is supernatural and not physical?
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    No. I've explained that already. I'm not sure why you're struggling with it.

    What would you like me to show you about evolution? Your language appears to have regressed to childhood.
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    No. That's all utterly undemonstrated and/or false.
    You appear to be having a breakdown or tantrum, unfortunately.
     
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  11. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    If your god is great, why do they create so much death and destruction in the middle east?
     
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  12. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Theists.
     
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  13. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I disagree with the premises here.

    Mathematically God has better odds than most theories if not all.

    Evil does not equal any if those things
     
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    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Which theists?
     
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    The premise is the omnipotence and omnibenevolence of your god. You seemingly don't believe he has those traits.

    So back to the question, your proof?
     
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  16. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Who is "they"?
     
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    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Your god.
     
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  18. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Lots of them. Feel free to replace the definition with words that won't hurt your feelings, though.
    Would you prefer transcendent or omnipresent, perhaps?
     
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  19. thefanwithnoname

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    We are proof

    Answer doesn't change no matter how many times you ask
     
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  20. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    No let's stick with what you said.

    Which theists?

    Time for an answer
     
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