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DMD said:
Given current knowledge, and billions of years, they can. They'd have to exist themselves to do it though, but science has got pretty close to knowing how it can happen naturally. It doesn't involve clay until quite a way in to the process.
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Yes they would need to exist
 
thefanwithnoname said:
Yes they would need to exist
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Only if they were to create it. There are scientific and mathematical theories that arguably show how it is possible without them.

An age old dilemma, I'm sure you've met before. Presumably you believe your god to be omnipotent and omnibenevolent?

So:
  1. If God is unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful.
  2. If God is not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good.
  3. If God is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist?
 
So what do we know

PNP didn't watch the vid posted and jumped to conclusions. Guy in vid said nothing wrong

Evolution has incomplete fossil records, no one has seen it happen so its conclusions are leaps of faith

God is great
 
thefanwithnoname said:
How is it ignorance? If the fossil record is incomplete then how can sine claims by evolutionist be true?

How can god be dismissed as we can't see him yet we accept evolution when no one had seen it happen or have a complete record of it happening?

YOU bought up dinochicken as proof <laugh>

So an artist who creates a masterpiece or a carpenter cresting a table are alterers?

So god is non physical and is supernatural? And you dare say I am ignorant?
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Do you know how fossils are formed? It doesn't seem that you do.
Why would claims by "evolutionists" require the entire fossil record?
They don't claim to have it or need it to demonstrate that the theory is accurate.

Anything without evidence can be dismissed until sufficient evidence is presented.
There's more than sufficient evidence of evolution. Quite simple, really.

You asked for a dinochicken and I provided one. I didn't say that it was proof of anything.
An artist or carpenter are alterers, yes. They change something into something else. They don't make things out of nothing.
Claiming that a scientist is a god-comparable creator is putting a mechanic on the same level.

I don't claim that god has any traits.
I respond to the claims of others and many of them do say that it's supernatural and non-physical.
You may have some other opinion, but that doesn't make me ignorant.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Do you know how fossils are formed? It doesn't seem that you do.
Why would claims by "evolutionists" require the entire fossil record?
They don't claim to have it or need it to demonstrate that the theory is accurate.

Anything without evidence can be dismissed until sufficient evidence is presented.
There's more than sufficient evidence of evolution. Quite simple, really.

You asked for a dinochicken and I provided one. I didn't say that it was proof of anything.
An artist or carpenter are alterers, yes. They change something into something else. They don't make things out of nothing.
Claiming that a scientist is a god-comparable creator is putting a mechanic on the same level.

I don't claim that god has any traits.
I respond to the claims of others and many of them do say that it's supernatural and non-physical.
You may have some other opinion, but that doesn't make me ignorant.
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Who says god is supernatural and not physical?
 
thefanwithnoname said:
So what do we know

PNP didn't watch the vid posted and jumped to conclusions. Guy in vid said nothing wrong

Evolution has incomplete fossil records, no one has seen it happen so its conclusions are leaps of faith

God is great
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No. That's all utterly undemonstrated and/or false.
You appear to be having a breakdown or tantrum, unfortunately.
 
thefanwithnoname said:
So what do we know

PNP didn't watch the vid posted and jumped to conclusions. Guy in vid said nothing wrong

Evolution has incomplete fossil records, no one has seen it happen so its conclusions are leaps of faith

God is great
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If your god is great, why do they create so much death and destruction in the middle east?
 
DMD said:
Only if they were to create it. There are scientific and mathematical theories that arguably show how it is possible without them.

An age old dilemma, I'm sure you've met before. Presumably you believe your god to be omnipotent and omnibenevolent?

So:
  1. If God is unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful.
  2. If God is not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good.
  3. If God is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist?
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I disagree with the premises here.

Mathematically God has better odds than most theories if not all.

Evil does not equal any if those things
 
thefanwithnoname said:
I disagree with the premises here.

Mathematically God has better odds than most theories if not all.

Evil does not equal any if those things
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The premise is the omnipotence and omnibenevolence of your god. You seemingly don't believe he has those traits.

So back to the question, your proof?
 
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