Aah was it that bloke who has a building company? Forget his name now.
Maybe back on the table if they aren't selling?
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Maybe back on the table if they aren't selling?
Nah, it was SMC Managing Director James Deacon who was driving it, but he quit in January.
As they never actually filed planning for it, I don't think it was as advanced as was made out at the meeting.
You're right Omega. A new owner worse than the current owner would be worse than the current owner.
A new owner better than the current owner, in terms of undoing the mistakes that the Allams have made, is a possibility though. Do you not credit that as an option?
Can you point me towards the Chinese, American or Russian owners that are not running their club's in the supporters' interest? There are 1-2 I grant you. There are plenty more of each nationality that do run their clubs with the supporters uppermost though.
How on earth can you know for certain that a new owner would do that? Pure speculation. They might just think that everything that has been done at the club, suits their purpose and carry on with it all.
I cannot deny that he would have been good for us.
So what happens after the development has been sold on, where does that leave the football side. One hit from the development and that's it.
I am not saying that "better the devil you know" The Allams want out and I would be happy for them to go. But this blinkered view that anyone is better than them is just pure nonsense. We do not know what the future holds with any new owners, how could we.
We as supporters deserve owners who have a full commitment Hull City and to the sport of football.
I suppose that a hotel next to the KCOM would be a surefire income earner.
My speculation that any new owner is unlikely to continue the stupidity of the current owners is far more reasonable than your speculation that any development would be sold off. In fact, having seen the details of that development, I'd say you're wildly wrong and it would not be practical to sell most of it on.
So, Hull City Tigers Limited or the Stadium Management Limited would be the developers and the landlords, maybe jointly with HCC? If it is the SMC, how does that benefit the football club? My example of Reading is there for a reason. ALL of the surrounding land around the stadium is owned by one group including the hotel attached to the stadium. No benefit at all to the football club. Please show me how the tenants (Hull City) will benefit.
Building coffee shops and bars under the KCOM will not benefit the football club one bit.
You're right. We don't know what new owners would be like.
I, and many others, campaigned to get rid of the Needler/Fish regime. Some disagreed with us. Needler, Fish and Dolan went and we got Lloyd and Wilby.
We campaigned to get rid of Lloyd and, by that point, Appleton. A handful disagreed with us at first. They went and we got, eventually, Hinchliffe and Buchanan.
We campaigned to get rid of Hinchliffe and Buchanan. We came as close to extinction as we'd ever been. But then we got Adam Pearson and the modern Hull City was born.
My point is that there's nothing wrong with wanting better. And getting from A to B isn't always a linear journey. The Allams have done some good things on the pitch and deserve credit for sorting out the academy (before letting all of its products leave for relative peanuts). But they've been the most divisive, antagonistic owners we've had in my time supporting the club. I - and evidently many others - want better. We want owners that value us as fans, who want what we want, who keep their egos in check and respect the club's heritage. If the next owners don't do that, we'll campaign for better again. Wanting better is what football fans do. It may seem irrational to some, but supporting a football team is irrational when looked at coldly. I've no time for this 'be careful what you wish for' mantra some chant at us Allam critics. If we had been careful what we were wishing for in the 90s, we might still be playing at a crumbling Boothferry Park with owners in some way connected to the motley bunch mentioned above. Wishing for better isn't wrong, even when there are no guarantees that you'll get it.
I can't explain it without giving details of what the development entails and I've been asked not to do so, but I can confirm that it doesn't involve a coffee shop or bar under the KCOM.
I fully agree, I personally do not want to have "new owners or "current owners" I want supporters to have ownership of the club. That does not look likely in the near future, but it does not stop me from having the dream.
I also agree that we should not settle for what we have out of fear that it could be worse. But the view that anyone will do as long as it is not the Allams, fills me with fear for the clubs future.
But can you explain how the football club will benefit. I may be a bit thick, but I cannot see how Hull City can get anything out of it.
At the moment, the SMC loses a significant amount of money, which the club owner currently covers.
If the SMC had a new large source of revenue, then it wouldn't lose any money, in fact it would make some.
That was the aim of the development.
Why do you think the club has to benefit? For sure it would be good if they did but it's not a must. Anything to improve the area and create jobs should be welcomed.
What
is continued Allam ownership, and a dwindling fan base. Whilst an ownership change is not always for the better, newcomers would struggle to piss off the fans quite as comprehensively as the present incumbents.
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I doubt that we will be locked out of the stadium or go into administration any time soon, there is too much at stake.
But would I be happy to be like Reading or even worse Coventry?
If Reading do not get promotion this season do you think they will be funded for it again?
We're not in the same position as Reading or Coventry, nor is anyone suggesting that we will end up in one, you're just creating daft scenarios to try and back up a weak defence of our current daft owners.