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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
seagullhoop said:
...and that's the problem. Even the legal definition of what constitutes a foetus is clouded by religious, moral and cultural influences which are predominantly created and maintained by men.
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This feminist argument makes it sound as though most women are fighting to favour women's choice over unborn child. The English Parliament would make any decision, made up approximately of one third female, no doubt based on a large array of medical and pressure group evidence. I'm willing to bet, if there is a vote, it would not break down on female/male lines.
 
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GoldhawkRd said:
This feminist argument makes it sound as though most women are fighting to favour women's choice over unborn child. The English Parliament would make any decision, made up approximately of one third female. I'm willing to bet, if there is a vote, it would not break down on female/male lines.
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...and more than two thirds of those people deciding would be men - who can neither conceive, carry or give birth to a child
 
seagullhoop said:
...and more than two thirds of those people deciding would be men - who can neither conceive, carry or give birth to a child - yet these men would be responsible for deciding the fate of half the population.
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You seem to forget that we're not just talking about women here - we're also talking about a foetus that at six months gets a legal identity such that aborting it after that date carries a life sentence. Male MP's as well as women MP's are entitled to a say in at what stage that legal protection kicks in.
 
GoldhawkRd said:
You seem to forget that we're not just talking about women here - we're also talking about a foetus that at six months gets a legal identity such that aborting it after that date carries a life sentence. Male MP's as well as women MP's are entitled to a say in at what stage that legal protection kicks in.
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Five and a half months or 24 weeks.

Anyway, a government that can't even get its Queens Speech worked out (or is it the special parchment causing a delay) until it has the permission of a few fundamentalists, and is looking to delay starting Brexit negotiations after only having had a year to prepare for them is unlikely to get its act together to debate this in Parliament. Unless the fundamentalists tell them to.

Are you pro death penalty Goldie?
 
sb_73 said:
Five and a half months or 24 weeks.

Anyway, a government that can't even get its Queens Speech worked out (or is it the special parchment causing a delay) until it has the permission of a few fundamentalists, and is looking to delay starting Brexit negotiations after only having had a year to prepare for them is unlikely to get its act together to debate this in Parliament. Unless the fundamentalists tell them to.

Are you pro death penalty Goldie?
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Why should my interest in seeing a reasonable time limit for abortion, suggest to you that I am pro death penalty, Stan?

I'm not pro death penalty, mainly because I don't want to see an innocent person executed if there is a miscarriage. I am in favour of more whole life terms. It seems ridiculous to me that a convicted murderer can be released when he or she has served his/her term, even though he/she may well be a risk to the public. Too many innocent people (mostly women) have been killed by a murderer released after his/her original prison term has expired
 
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GoldhawkRd said:
Why should my interest in seeing a reasonable time limit for abortion, suggest to you that I am pro death penalty, Stan?

I'm not pro death penalty, mainly because I don't want to see an innocent person executed if there is a miscarriage. I am in favour of more whole life terms. It seems ridiculous to me that a convicted murderer can be released when he or she has served his/her term, even though he/she may well be a risk to the public. Too many innocent people (mostly women) have been killed by a murderer released after his/her original prison term has expired
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You jumped to a conclusion there Goldie.

I was setting up a rather weak joke. Now the moment has passed.....
 
Sooperhoop said:
Apparently the 1922 Committee have rebooted the Maybot, it will now be 'strong and humble' better known as 'stumble'...:grin:
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She's now just a puppet, soon we'll find out who is pulling the strings.

There are 40,000 nursing position vacancies in the NHS. From January to July last year between 600 and 1300 nurses from the EU were registering with the various nursing bodies per month. Since August last year numbers have declined from 750 down every month to the grand total of 46 in April.
 
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