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Spook said:
My student debt seems less daunting with the satisfaction of seeing Nick Clegg look like he's about to burst into tears after losing his seat.
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It's hardly a debt anyway. I've been to uni 3 times now my uni 'debt' is ****ing massive. I paid about 30 quid off it last year cause I don't earn a lot.

The whole thing about 'how can the poor students cope with such a huge debt' is complete bollocks. Unless you start earning a decent crust in the high 20s plus you don't pay it back anyway.

Just move house and they can't find you for it. Mortgage companies etc. don't even check if you have one it's completely insignificant.
 
Walter Sobchak said:
It's hardly a debt anyway. I've been to uni 3 times now my uni 'debt' is ****ing massive. I paid about 30 quid off it last year cause I don't earn a lot.

The whole thing about 'how can the poor students cope with such a huge debt' is complete bollocks. Unless you start earning a decent crust in the high 20s plus you don't pay it back anyway.

Just move house and they can't find you for it. Mortgage companies etc. don't even check if you have one it's completely insignificant.
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My girlfriend pays £150 a month. I need to have a word with her.
 
originalminority said:
A fair points system will give big business the skill shortages they need over a left wing open door policy and they'll get a free trade agreement. Austerity can be managed, Corbyn's tax and spend plans would create chaos. May can go for me, there are better leaders amongst the Tory ranks.
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The Tories and big business don't really want restrictions on immigration. Its good for profits.

Corbyn's tax and spend policies weren't that radical. They just seemed that way because of what happened under Blair and Cameron. I Without checking I'd say they're not much different from what we had under Thatcher, both the rates of taxes and public spending (at least in real terms).
 
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Obadiah said:
The Tories and big business don't really want restrictions on immigration. Its good for profits.

Corbyn's tax and spend policies weren't that radical. They just seemed that way because of what happened under Blair and Cameron. I Without checking I'd say they're not much different from what we had under Thatcher, both the rates of taxes and public spending (at least in real terms).
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They were too much in one go, particularly during this unstable period with the Brexit nonsense, and even more so when our economy is built completely on the backs of banks and the rich. Like it or lump it that's the way it is. In the current situation we need to be doing everything we can to encourage big business and the rich to not only stay/come here but to invest and spend and build. Labour isn't really encouraging that is it.
 
Obadiah said:
The Tories and big business don't really want restrictions on immigration. Its good for profits.

Corbyn's tax and spend policies weren't that radical. They just seemed that way because of what happened under Blair and Cameron. I Without checking I'd say they're not much different from what we had under Thatcher, both the rates of taxes and public spending (at least in real terms).
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Thatcher cut top rate income tax from 83% to 40% and basic rate income tax from 33% to 25%, Corporation Tax was higher, VAT was lower.
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
Whoa the Tori's didn't make their bed they went with the vote as they bloody should have done. That was democracy.
Im no Tory but she has still won. Why are the beeb reporting it as a loss and going on about brexitmconstantly. As others have said people voted against more so for the nhs and tuition fees, I expect
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The Tory leadership held the referendum when they didn't have to have one. They expected to win easily and didn't.

May called an election when she didn't have to. She expected to win easily. She didn't.

May lost her parliamentary majority.

If the BBC didn't go on about Brexit they'd have to say the election was about austerity, the state of public services and how popular Labour's Manifesto was, especially amongst the young. Brexit allows them to pretend nothing has changed very much.
 
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Walter Sobchak said:
It's hardly a debt anyway. I've been to uni 3 times now my uni 'debt' is ****ing massive. I paid about 30 quid off it last year cause I don't earn a lot.

The whole thing about 'how can the poor students cope with such a huge debt' is complete bollocks. Unless you start earning a decent crust in the high 20s plus you don't pay it back anyway.

Just move house and they can't find you for it. Mortgage companies etc. don't even check if you have one it's completely insignificant.
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My Sister did a PHD and came out with about £30k of debt.
 
originallambrettaman said:
Sterling's down 2.5% against the dollar and it has completely collapsed against the Euro, it's down over 12% since the start of the year.
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As I said yesterday, the Eurozone outside of Germany is booming. Strangely gets very little coverage here, it was almost as if the media were pushing a strong and stable economic outlook.
 
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