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Toffs killing a few attractive furry animals in a theatrical fashion > the lower orders hooking millions of slimy scaly unattractive fish in a quiet methodical way.
So it would seem.

I find fish more attractive than foxes.

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both are wrong
and it's the toff ****s that have polluted our oceans with horrific amounts of mercury etc
I'd had enough after 'Bohemian Rhapsody' tbh.
Not surprised the posh ****s junked their discs at sea.
 
I can't believe how many people share things on social media, without any idea if what they're sharing is accurate or not.

Often things that are quite obviously complete bollocks.

Absolutely. Usually people who have blind support for their favourite party in the way we support football clubs, no matter the policies, the leaders, the current political climate. I really don't understand people who are like that. And most of them don't have a ****ing clue what they're on about, taking everything they read in their favourite overly biased rag as gospel, yet they usually shout the loudest.
 
Absolutely. Usually people who have blind support for their favourite party in the way we support football clubs, no matter the policies, the leaders, the current political climate. I really don't understand people who are like that. And most of them don't have a ****ing clue what they're on about, taking everything they read in their favourite overly biased rag as gospel, yet they usually shout the loudest.

exactly

that's what i don't ****ing get

every count time.. sunderland is always the first.. always labour

people say ohh i've supported labour since 1979.. and ill stay labour.. it's not ****ing football
 
It's costed based on flawed calculations (maybe Abbott was responsible), the more you increase taxes, the more worthwhile it is for people/companies to work at avoiding them. The last time taxes went up, revenues actually went down.

At the moment, the major multinational corporations like Apple, Amazon, eBay etc do not have their HQ's here, they're in places like Ireland and Luxembourg, where tax rates are lower. We've been lowering ours to try and compete and rightly so.

So why do other countries not need to have people living in poverty in order to pay for the corporations to have cheap taxes? All the other major economies seem to manage fine with higher corporation tax than us. Sweden have a great quality of life with higher prices than us because wages are high and the common man is looked after. Here it's seen as a radical idea to give everyone the absolute basics and that's incredibly sad.
 
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So why do other countries not need to have people living in poverty in order to pay for the corporations to have cheap taxes? All the other major economies seem to manage fine with higher corporation tax than us. Sweden have a great quality of life with higher prices than us because wages are high and the common man is looked after. Here it's seen as a radical idea to give everyone the absolute basics and that's incredibly sad.

The Swedes are taxed to ****, hence the high level of social services.
 
The Swedes are taxed to ****, hence the high level of social services.

UK is a very very rubbish place to live

our transport infrastructure is terribly bad
our technology is quite slow compared to more advanced countries
etc
 
I think judging by how the Tories are running their campaign, Labour will end up getting in.

That said, I also think Corbyn won't last long as PM if so.
 
The Swedes are taxed to ****, hence the high level of social services.

It’s progressive taxation for a fairer society.

For such a wealthy country, we're either average or low down in so many indices it's disgraceful.

As I've said elsewhere in this thread, I'm happy to pay more tax for a fairer deal for everyone (I know this is outrage for some).

Why?

Simply because I want my kids (and all kids) to grow up in a safer, compassionate and fairer society.
 
It’s progressive taxation for a fairer society.

For such a wealthy country, we're either average or low down in so many indices it's disgraceful.

As I've said elsewhere in this thread, I'm happy to pay more tax for a fairer deal for everyone (I know this is outrage for some).

Why?

Simply because I want my kids (and all kids) to grow up in a safer, compassionate and fairer society.

the problem here is
the rich only benefit themselves, and get better off

and the gap between them and the poorest gets ever wider

for the wealth of the uk.. our transport infrastructure
our education system etc

is very ****ing poor..
 
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I think judging by how the Tories are running their campaign, Labour will end up getting in.
Hahaha..Falls over laughing.

Don't believe the polls.. They've been getting them way off for years. The BBC exit poll at 10pm on Thursday night will be the best poll you'll hear all week.
 
Toffs killing a few attractive furry animals in a theatrical fashion > the lower orders hooking millions of slimy scaly unattractive fish in a quiet methodical way.
So it would seem.

Toffs/lower orders - pretty much the Tory world view.

I actually went to university with a proper toff. One of his uncles was a 'smart' (as he called it rather than posh) Tory MP - back in the 90s.

He used to laugh like **** about poorer working folk who voted Tory. They all did.

**** knows what he'd think now - must be pissing himself at what people will swallow.
 
Labour has a fully-costed manifesto but don’t seem to have formulated a VAT policy as yet – remember though, this was a snap election.

However, it would stand to the form of their ideology that they’ll look to reduce a tax that effects the poorest in our society hard.

I'm sure there's an explanation somewhere, but it always seems odd when you consider everything that's exempt, zero rated, and 5% rated that it affects the poorest more than the richest. How much are they spending on other items that it makes a noticable difference?

I just looked at my own spending/finances, and because of all the exempt/zero rated/5% rated items, if VAT changed from 20% to either 17.5% or 22.5% I'd only gain or lose £1.25 a week, and that's ignoring that probably most of my food is exempt as well.
 
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