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Aye, he seems to want lowly teams to mark a change, or winners who will coast. Every job is a challenge, as Moyes has discovered. He's going to be interesting to follow.

Totally agree. It will be interesting to see how he gets on with a full pre season a couple of transfer windows.
 
****ing hell mate Maguire is ten times better than Gibson

Really? I've always been impressed when I've seen him but always unimpressed with Maguire. Admittedly I've seen little of either but how much of Gibson have you seen? How come he's in the England squad and Maguire isn't? I might be dumb here because I know little about him but is he English?
 
Really? I've always been impressed when I've seen him but always unimpressed with Maguire. Admittedly I've seen little of either but how much of Gibson have you seen? How come he's in the England squad and Maguire isn't? I might be dumb here because I know little about him but is he English?

Because in the opinion of the manager, Gibson is better. The same way every national squad selection works.

Obvs.
 
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Really? I've always been impressed when I've seen him but always unimpressed with Maguire. Admittedly I've seen little of either but how much of Gibson have you seen? How come he's in the England squad and Maguire isn't? I might be dumb here because I know little about him but is he English?
It's because the selectors think that Gibson is better.
Maguire is really quite English.
 
Ha.

Strange how people struggle with this though.

As if Southgate’s selections iterate an absolute and infallible index of England’s contemporary best

As a onetime highly regarded central defender himself, I'd say Gareth Southgate should be fairly well qualified to pick defenders - just a thought like.
 
As a onetime highly regarded central defender himself, I'd say Gareth Southgate should be fairly well qualified to pick defenders - just a thought like.



There’s a logic there but in truth playing ability or positional experience has little to do with success at management.

There are tonnes of examples of fantastic players being ****e at management.
 
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There’s a logic there but in truth playing ability or positional experience has little to do with success at management.

There are tonnes of examples of fantastic players being ****e at management.

I don't really know about that, my only point was - you'd think one good centre half would know what another good centre half looked like.
 
I don't really know about that, my only point was - you'd think one good centre half would know what another good centre half looked like.

Naturally, I'm sure they do, it's rare they select someone who's ****. However, the national team manager is supposed to select the best from the best.

Does this mean that they would always select the correct players? How do we define correct and better than?

Anyway, my point is that it's totally subjective and to take their decision as absolute (in grading terms) is stupid as a different manager, might have a different interpretation.
 
If Macguire didn't do the eye catching Beckenbeur stuff (which never amounted to anything, hence Silva telling him to focus on his proper job), does anyone really believe he is that fantastic? He has reduced his mistakes to one in a couple of games or so, but England defenders should go months without a mistake,
 
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