Explosion in Manchester

[Tobes]

You can't rationalise the completely irrational.

The fact that this twat didn't even access the venue merely targeted the crowds leaving it, creates a whole new problem for the security forces to consider.

 

[Spurlock]

There's a difference, mate. We don't deliberately target their kids. Their kids usually get hurt when the scum hide amongst the population of places like Raqqa , hoping it will discourage the US and others from bombing them. They don't give a **** about their own kids, nevermind ours!..

Some do yeah...other bombs end up on schools too.....i wont give the Western Govts and their intentions too much credit. Either way it's not a justification in any way shape or form. I dont think the terrorists will break it down to that level. They are trying to hurt us in the worst ways possible..but in their heads, we got the ball rolling.

they dont care about anything....anger is rarely rational

 

[SpursDisciple]

There's a difference, mate. We don't deliberately target their kids. Their kids usually get hurt when the scum hide amongst the population of places like Raqqa , hoping it will discourage the US and others from bombing them. They don't give a **** about their own kids, nevermind ours!..

Sorry NSIS, that is simply untrue. You are talking about ISIS, but the issue has been going on way before that nasty thread came into being. We support Israel who have been illegally occupying parts of Palestine and Jordan and bombing the hell out of everyone that they consider a threat to them, the situation in Syria, the wars in Iraq haven't exactly spared civilians.

 

[Spurlock]

It's about being intentionally divisive.
They're trying to split Muslims from the rest of the community by creating a backlash against their own people.
If they'd have killed a few politicians then there would be concern and action taken, but far less outrage and anger.
Killing kids provokes a far more visceral response and makes the general population a lot more frightened and reactionary.

Condolences to the victims and their friends and families.
I hope that those responsible are caught and dealt with.

exactly what it is....scumbags

 

[NSIS]

Sorry NSIS, that is simply untrue. You are talking about ISIS, but the issue has been going on way before that nasty thread came into being. We support Israel who have been illegally occupying parts of Palestine and Jordan and bombing the hell out of everyone that they consider a threat to them, the situation in Syria, the wars in Iraq haven't exactly spared civilians.

Well let 'em bomb Israel then. Oh wait, they already do.

Nobody in the West stoops to the kind of atrocity we saw last night. The deliberate targeting of kids.

Any bombing of non combatants, civilians, whatever term you prefer, is to be deplored. But the calculated and deliberate targeting of kids is as low as you can go.

 

[LeicesterWizard]

Another Bomb rumour

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/manchester-arena-bomb-arndale-centre-10481402

 

[NSIS]

Some do yeah...other bombs end up on schools too.....i wont give the Western Govts and their intentions too much credit. Either way it's not a justification in any way shape or form. I dont think the terrorists will break it down to that level. They are trying to hurt us in the worst ways possible..but in their heads, we got the ball rolling.

they dont care about anything....anger is rarely rational

Can't argue too much with that, mate.

I just think that the calculated and deliberate targeting of kids is a new low even for that bloodthirsty scum.

 

[LeicesterWizard]

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[Tel (they/them)]

I'm supposed to be heading to the town hall after lunch, I think I might knock it on the head.

 

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Rumours are that police were arresting somebody in the Arndale connected with the attack.

 

[Highburyal]

However you look at it, this is a sad situation and reality these day and its the every day people that pay the price...

 

[Highburyal]

There's a difference, mate. We don't deliberately target their kids. Their kids usually get hurt when the scum hide amongst the population of places like Raqqa , hoping it will discourage the US and others from bombing them. They don't give a **** about their own kids, nevermind ours!..

Don't believe everything the government and the media tells you mate, a built up city where do you think the people are going to be fighting from? ISIS are scums but there has to be genuine belief to try and achieve peace all over the world, the politicians on both sides don't give a **** and that's the reality.

Feel for those families on both sides...this us against them isn't going to achieve anything and that's the sound bites you will probably get from the government and media and they will use this to start a war somewhere else now probably..

 

[AKCJ]

The term "****" is banded about in a care free manner these days.

But the people who kill themselves and try and take others with them are the ****iest ****s who ever ****ed.

****s.

 

[NSIS]

Don't believe everything the government and the media tells you mate, a built up city where do you think the people are going to be fighting from? ISIS are scums but there has to be genuine belief to try and achieve peace all over the world, the politicians on both sides don't give a **** and that's the reality.

Feel for those families on both sides...this us against them isn't going to achieve anything and that's the sound bites you will probably get from the government and media and they will use this to start a war somewhere else now probably..

They've deliberately held populations of entire cities hostage. Anybody caught trying to escape is executed in the most barbaric ways they can think of.

They're scum and think nothing of using innocent Muslims as cover. They don't even give a toss about their own kids, I suppose nobody should be surprised they'd never think twice about killing ours.

 

[Highburyal]

Well let 'em bomb Israel then. Oh wait, they already do.

Nobody in the West stoops to the kind of atrocity we saw last night. The deliberate targeting of kids.

Any bombing of non combatants, civilians, whatever term you prefer, is to be deplored. But the calculated and deliberate targeting of kids is as low as you can go.

I don't think the Drones can decide what is a legit target, do you? the term collateral damage has been used for so long when killing innocents on the other side that it has brought up a generation of people that hate the west and are willing to do anything to get revenge! The indiscriminate killing by Israel and our unwavering support for them don't help either.

This is a vicious circle not the first and unfortunately I cant see it being the last, we need genuine people working to get a peaceful solutions to all the issues and not driven by oil...

 

[Highburyal]

They've deliberately held populations of entire cities hostage. Anybody caught trying to escape is executed in the most barbaric ways they can think of.

They're scum and think nothing of using innocent Muslims as cover. They don't even give a toss about their own kids, I suppose nobody should be surprised they'd never think twice about killing ours.

But what I am saying is that this isn't a new problem that came with ISIS, this has been brewing for a long time before and some of those groups were created by us to use against others until they turned on us....that's the reality.

 

[NSIS]

I don't think the Drones can decide what is a legit target, do you? the term collateral damage has been used for so long when killing innocents on the other side that it has brought up a generation of people that hate the west and are willing to do anything to get revenge! The indiscriminate killing by Israel and our unwavering support for them don't help either.

This is a vicious circle not the first and unfortunately I cant see it being the last, we need genuine people working to get a peaceful solutions to all the issues and not driven by oil...

Yes, but 'collateral damage' that is caused by deliberately trying to conceal yourself amongst the civilian population that you are holding hostage is inevitable.

I don't know what the solution is, tbh. Put simply, Israel will never surrender, and there are large elements of the Muslim opposition who will never tolerate the existence of Israel.

 

[NSIS]

I don't think the Drones can decide what is a legit target, do you? the term collateral damage has been used for so long when killing innocents on the other side that it has brought up a generation of people that hate the west and are willing to do anything to get revenge! The indiscriminate killing by Israel and our unwavering support for them don't help either.

This is a vicious circle not the first and unfortunately I cant see it being the last, we need genuine people working to get a peaceful solutions to all the issues and not driven by oil...

Yes, drones are targeted.

Unless you know of a drone that was deliberately aimed at a kids meeting place?

 

[Highburyal]

Yes, but 'collateral damage' that is caused by deliberately trying to conceal yourself amongst the civilian population that you are holding hostage is inevitable.

I don't know what the solution is, tbh. Put simply, Israel will never surrender, and there are large elements of the Muslim opposition who will never tolerate the existence of Israel.

The term "collateral damage" is used to often even when killing innocents under the assumption there are terrorists hiding there somewhere and then we find it wasn't the case, use of drones based on assumption is just as bad.

For peace to happen the peace makers need to be neutral, which isn't the case and that's one of the biggest problem, forget Israel for a minute and look at Libya we have created a breeding ground for terrorists there by destroying everything and leaving it like a hell hole and who are the terrorists there? The ones we supported to get rid of Gaddafi....

 

[Highburyal]

Yes, drones are targeted.

Unless you know of a drone that was deliberately aimed at a kids meeting place?

Not sure if you recall but there was a wedding in Afghanistan, which was wiped out using a drone and the goverments came out saying that they destroyed terrorists until independent media came out with footage and they back tracked and things like that happen all the time mate, just because its not on the main stream media conveniently it doesn't mean its not there...

This is like saying dropping a bomb like MOAB has only killed the terrorists, doubt it very much and these breeds more hatred as they use these as propaganda to recruit.